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From: Craig Brooks Date: Jul 27 11:51 UTC Short link

Nolan's Blog on the Daily News
http://rivervalleyblogs.com/articles/2008/07/26/nolan/9982.txt
talks about the current efforts toget students involved in being election
judges andother ways to promote more involvement of young people in our
democratic process.
I know many are sensitive about this since the school referendum vote. But, I
think it is good to encourage involvement and supportefforts like this and the
Mock Legislature Gene Pelowski does every year.
Craig Brooks

From: Terri Hyle Date: Jul 27 17:30 UTC Short link

On a personal note (and one which will age me), I turned 18 and was a senior in
high school about the same time 18 year olds got the vote.  A close friend's
father was a precinct committeeman (this was in Indiana) and thought it would
be a terrific idea for a newly qualified 18 year old  to serve as an election
official in the upcoming primary elections.  He felt it would be improper to
nominate his daughter, so he asked me if I would be willing to serve as an
election sherrif (one of the official offices for elections in Indiana, at
least at that time).  It meant I got an officially sanctioned day off of
school, which is why I agreed to do it.  As it turns out, it was very
educational:  the other election officials treated me as a full fledged adult
for the very first time! I got paid the princely sum of $15.00--very nice bucks
for a high school kid who made less than $1.00/hr babysitting, and I got my
picture in the local paper--which greatly embarrassed me, but made my
grandmotherr proud.

More importantly, I got a chance to become involved in the political process.
My family was not political, so this was a step outside of the box for me.  I
have never forgotten the experience and believe that serving in this capacity
helped develop a life long feeling of ownership in the political process.

I am all for opportunities for young adults to become part of the political
process.  Gene Pelowski's mock legislature is a wonderful opportunity for
students to learn how the process works.

Terri Hyle

From: Joliene Olson Date: Jul 28 15:58 UTC Short link

I am totally in agreement with getting our students involved.  Whether they be
high school, university or technical college, they should be invited and
encouraged to participate.

Craig's comment about some people not being in favor with the students
envolvement because of referendum ballots in the past struck a bell with me.  I
know the following statement won't be popular with a few people but the reality
is that even with student vote the school district LOST more referendums than
were ever passed.

The other reality is that the people who complain are those that are not
pleased by anything related to the public schools and that is very sad.  They
are locked into the past so deeply they can't see over the edge into the
future.

Without an educated populace we would be like a lot of 3rd world countries with
such high unemployment that they don't have anything to do but rile against the
world at large.

Joliene Olson

From: Ruth Charles Date: Jul 28 17:19 UTC Short link

Just a piece of clarification-
    This project has nothing to do with college students voting.  This
project has to do with college students assisting every person who comes to
a polling place to vote.
    The goal of this project is to encourage young voters to be engaged as
public servants.  Nationally, the average age of an election judge is 72
years. We need to encourage these young people to participate or in the
future we could be in trouble.
    This project came out of my personal experience as an election judge in
Winona.  Minnesota's election system is excellent and I wanted to encourage
students to learn from one of the best systems around.  --Ruth Charles


> From: Joliene Olson <jwolson@luminet.net>
> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 04:00:06 +1200 (NZST)
> To: Winona Online Democracy <winona@forums.e-democracy.org>
> Subject: Re: [Winona] encourage young people to get involved
>
> I am totally in agreement with getting our students involved.  Whether they
be

From: Terry Angst Date: Jul 30 04:24 UTC Short link

Joliene, perhaps you could expand a little more on:  "The other reality is
that the people who complain are those that are not pleased by anything
related to the public schools and that is very sad. "

Terry Angst

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From: "Joliene Olson" <jwolson@luminet.net>
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 11:00 AM
To: "Winona Online Democracy" <winona@forums.e-democracy.org>
Subject: Re: [Winona] encourage young people to get involved

> I am totally in agreement with getting our students involved.  Whether
> they be high school, university or technical college, they should be
> invited and encouraged to participate.
>
> Craig's comment about some people not being in favor with the students
> envolvement because of referendum ballots in the past struck a bell with
> me.  I know the following statement won't be popular with a few people but
> the reality is that even with student vote the school district LOST more
> referendums than were ever passed.
>
> The other reality is that the people who complain are those that are not
> pleased by anything related to the public schools and that is very sad.
> They are locked into the past so deeply they can't see over the edge into
> the future.
>
> Without an educated populace we would be like a lot of 3rd world countries
> with such high unemployment that they don't have anything to do but rile
> against the world at large.
>
> Joliene Olson
>
>
> Joliene Olson
>
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From: Leslie Hittner Date: Jul 30 10:30 UTC Short link

Terry,

I understood Joliene to be referring to those who complained
about the college students voting in the last referendum
election.

I guess I must agree with her. After all, the college students
didn't "win" the election (voting in favor of the referendum).
Rather the rest of the people in the community (if they did in
fact oppose the referendum) "lost" the election. Look at the
dismal percentage of people who voted.

Actually, I believe that if the percentage of community voters
had been higher, the referendum would have passed with a greater
gap between "yea" and "neigh." I believe that the people who
were more likely to vote were those who voted "neigh." I also
believe those who were vocal and critical of the college student
vote were the same people who complain the most about the public
school system in general here in Winona.

All of this misses the point, however, since the project
proposed by Ruth Charles and her associate have to do with
assigning students as election judges. Student voting is quite
another topic.

-Leslie Hittner

----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry" <tja1013@hbci.com>
To: <winona@forums.e-democracy.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 23:24
Subject: Re: [Winona] encourage young people to get involved


> Joliene, perhaps you could expand a little more on:  "The
other reality is
> that the people who complain are those that are not pleased by
anything
> related to the public schools and that is very sad. "
>
> Terry Angst
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Joliene Olson" <jwolson@luminet.net>
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 11:00 AM
> To: "Winona Online Democracy" <winona@forums.e-democracy.org>
> Subject: Re: [Winona] encourage young people to get involved
>
> > I am totally in agreement with getting our students
involved.  Whether
> > they be high school, university or technical college, they
should be
> > invited and encouraged to participate.
> >
> > Craig's comment about some people not being in favor with
the students
> > envolvement because of referendum ballots in the past struck
a bell with
> > me.  I know the following statement won't be popular with a
few people but
> > the reality is that even with student vote the school
district LOST more
> > referendums than were ever passed.
> >
> > The other reality is that the people who complain are those
that are not
> > pleased by anything related to the public schools and that
is very sad.
> > They are locked into the past so deeply they can't see over
the edge into
> > the future.
> >
> > Without an educated populace we would be like a lot of 3rd
world countries
> > with such high unemployment that they don't have anything to
do but rile
> > against the world at large.
> >
> > Joliene Olson
> >
> >
> > Joliene Olson
> >
> > Info about Joliene Olson:
> > http://forums.e-democracy.org/p/7gGuqd5qt3yGTZRFH9QK43
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