One solution for the Hiawatha Homeless Encampment that can solve the problem of homelessness there and elsewhere and perhaps save the taxpayer money
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- Last post by Margaret Hastings at 2:01pm, Sep 14, 2018
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- Captain
- Sparrow
- Jack
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A good suggestion Captain Jack. Especially the part that TBI plays in
homelessness. We know that window falls cause life long problems for children
because of TBI.
The small house community sounds interesting as well. Of course that would
take some actual organization to accomplish. Perhaps some "Non-Profit" could
be shown how they could make a substantial profit from organizing such an
effort. Perhaps not as much as "Development Fees" for "Affordable Housing",
but enough to make them take it on.
People sometimes become and stay homeless because of addiction and criminal
justice problems and then cannot get out of that situation because they lack
basic transportation necessary to secure and keep employment. Something as
simple as a used automobile can make all the difference in the world.
I had encountered a homeless man who helped with work at Marie Sandvick on
Franklin Avenue and with the KOLA program that American Indian CDC. A Native
man who though homeless himself helped others who were homeless. He asked for
work and I said all I had was mowing my yards, which he gladly accepted. For
the next couple of years this went on with occasionally me needing other odd
jobs done that he did. Then finally after years on the street he got housing
through "Section Eight", but still lacked stable employment due to not having
stable transportation and a record due to his previous addiction. He kept
asking if he could buy my older Toyota Truck that he admired and how then he
would not have to catch a bus to do some work for me.
Realizing what that truck (that I only occasionally used, and mostly with him)
could be to him I offered to sell it to him for about 1/4 of its value and to
allow him to make payments on that amount from what he made from his work for
me. Something that did not please my adult sons who also coveted the same
truck for hunting and fishing purposes. I explained to them that they could
get other vehicles if they wanted and it would not change their lives, but that
truck would mean a great deal more for him. And I was of course correct. That
truck freed him to get other jobs and to offer the same opportunity to others
with Housing and employment problems. It indeed did change his life, and his
use offered the same benefits to some other homeless people.
While it does not cause the total "Fix" for homelessness, stable housing and a
means of personal transportation can change lives for a great many. Without
stable housing employees can not be counted on. Simple as that! Without
stable "PERSONAL" transportation employees cannot be counted on to ALWAYS be at
work on time. Miss work a few times and that employee is gone. And by the
way, a huge percentage of jobs are NOT accessible by public transportation.
Especially in climates like Minnesota.
And by the way again; Mr. Frey has about as much chance of housing ALL those
people as he has of stopping the winter from coming. Or at least housing them
without spending a lot more of my tax dollars than are already wasted on feel
good, politically correct, but meaningless gestures. And exactly how is he
going to house and "Support" those with the addiction and mental illness
problems who were homeless before there was a housing shortage?
Honestly though, Captain Jack's plan is to create a more formal place not
unlike the "Tent City", but a hell of a lot warmer and more substantial. There
must be some actual "City Property" where that would be possible. How about
that "park" down by the stadium that cost us so much? Or that place by the
Guthrie next to the River? There is a whole lot of City owned property
available to cheaply develop such an idea.
It might create the opportunity to house people as profitably to organizations
such as PPL to do so instead of wasting over 300,000 dollars per unit for
"Affordable Housing" that has been alluded to on this Forum. You just have to
show them how profitable it can be. Of course they, and such organizations, do
make their money from "serving" and "managing" those same poor people.
Homelessness and Poverty is big business in Minneapolis, so do not expect too
much from Non-profits to end homelessness. It really is counterproductive to
their business interests. :-)
But I like the idea. It is simple and sort of like the idea of having people
build Carriage House garages in their backyards. Use the same water and sewer
and other infrastructure as the front house, increase the tax base of the City,
provides more off-street parking, provides an additional income stream for the
owner, provides desirable housing units for one and two person families, AND
cost tax payers nothing.
Simple ideas, yours and mine ....but where is the profit in that for the
Developers and Non-Profits??? It may be bad for their business and certainly is
not very profitable. So Captain Jack you need to add something that would be
profitable for them and for the politicians that they "donate" to. Just my
reaction to Captain Jack's good idea...
Jim Graham
On Tuesday, August 28, 2018, 10:27:24 AM CDT, CJ Sparrow
<<email obscured>> wrote:
https://occupirate.blogspot.com/2014/05/collective-business-and-cooperative.html
Captain Jack Sparrow
CJ Sparrow
Powderhorn Park, Minneapolis
About/contact CJ Sparrow: http://forums.e-democracy.org/p/cjsparrow1
homelessness. We know that window falls cause life long problems for children
because of TBI.
The small house community sounds interesting as well. Of course that would
take some actual organization to accomplish. Perhaps some "Non-Profit" could
be shown how they could make a substantial profit from organizing such an
effort. Perhaps not as much as "Development Fees" for "Affordable Housing",
but enough to make them take it on.
People sometimes become and stay homeless because of addiction and criminal
justice problems and then cannot get out of that situation because they lack
basic transportation necessary to secure and keep employment. Something as
simple as a used automobile can make all the difference in the world.
I had encountered a homeless man who helped with work at Marie Sandvick on
Franklin Avenue and with the KOLA program that American Indian CDC. A Native
man who though homeless himself helped others who were homeless. He asked for
work and I said all I had was mowing my yards, which he gladly accepted. For
the next couple of years this went on with occasionally me needing other odd
jobs done that he did. Then finally after years on the street he got housing
through "Section Eight", but still lacked stable employment due to not having
stable transportation and a record due to his previous addiction. He kept
asking if he could buy my older Toyota Truck that he admired and how then he
would not have to catch a bus to do some work for me.
Realizing what that truck (that I only occasionally used, and mostly with him)
could be to him I offered to sell it to him for about 1/4 of its value and to
allow him to make payments on that amount from what he made from his work for
me. Something that did not please my adult sons who also coveted the same
truck for hunting and fishing purposes. I explained to them that they could
get other vehicles if they wanted and it would not change their lives, but that
truck would mean a great deal more for him. And I was of course correct. That
truck freed him to get other jobs and to offer the same opportunity to others
with Housing and employment problems. It indeed did change his life, and his
use offered the same benefits to some other homeless people.
While it does not cause the total "Fix" for homelessness, stable housing and a
means of personal transportation can change lives for a great many. Without
stable housing employees can not be counted on. Simple as that! Without
stable "PERSONAL" transportation employees cannot be counted on to ALWAYS be at
work on time. Miss work a few times and that employee is gone. And by the
way, a huge percentage of jobs are NOT accessible by public transportation.
Especially in climates like Minnesota.
And by the way again; Mr. Frey has about as much chance of housing ALL those
people as he has of stopping the winter from coming. Or at least housing them
without spending a lot more of my tax dollars than are already wasted on feel
good, politically correct, but meaningless gestures. And exactly how is he
going to house and "Support" those with the addiction and mental illness
problems who were homeless before there was a housing shortage?
Honestly though, Captain Jack's plan is to create a more formal place not
unlike the "Tent City", but a hell of a lot warmer and more substantial. There
must be some actual "City Property" where that would be possible. How about
that "park" down by the stadium that cost us so much? Or that place by the
Guthrie next to the River? There is a whole lot of City owned property
available to cheaply develop such an idea.
It might create the opportunity to house people as profitably to organizations
such as PPL to do so instead of wasting over 300,000 dollars per unit for
"Affordable Housing" that has been alluded to on this Forum. You just have to
show them how profitable it can be. Of course they, and such organizations, do
make their money from "serving" and "managing" those same poor people.
Homelessness and Poverty is big business in Minneapolis, so do not expect too
much from Non-profits to end homelessness. It really is counterproductive to
their business interests. :-)
But I like the idea. It is simple and sort of like the idea of having people
build Carriage House garages in their backyards. Use the same water and sewer
and other infrastructure as the front house, increase the tax base of the City,
provides more off-street parking, provides an additional income stream for the
owner, provides desirable housing units for one and two person families, AND
cost tax payers nothing.
Simple ideas, yours and mine ....but where is the profit in that for the
Developers and Non-Profits??? It may be bad for their business and certainly is
not very profitable. So Captain Jack you need to add something that would be
profitable for them and for the politicians that they "donate" to. Just my
reaction to Captain Jack's good idea...
Jim Graham
On Tuesday, August 28, 2018, 10:27:24 AM CDT, CJ Sparrow
<<email obscured>> wrote:
https://occupirate.blogspot.com/2014/05/collective-business-and-cooperative.html
Captain Jack Sparrow
CJ Sparrow
Powderhorn Park, Minneapolis
About/contact CJ Sparrow: http://forums.e-democracy.org/p/cjsparrow1
Jim and Captain Jack , along with Guy Gambill, and the courageous outreach
worker who posted a letter to the editor have consistent and common sense
approaches to address homelssness.
The dysfunctional bunch who have failed miserably at addressing homelessness
continue to block the real world solutions. But get big salaries.
worker who posted a letter to the editor have consistent and common sense
approaches to address homelssness.
The dysfunctional bunch who have failed miserably at addressing homelessness
continue to block the real world solutions. But get big salaries.
David Hewitt, another bureaucrat sitting in the Heading Home office to end
Homlessness , tells the strib of being stretched thin. Some people in letters
to editor blame lack of money. The money has poured in over several years and
has been wasted.
FYI....I will have to lay out over a thousand dollars to get HHH emails.
After the latest evidence that the idiots,( supposed experts on homelessness
)will be allowed to continue screwing up.....I am not expending energy or money
, tilting at any further windmills in any attempt to have homelessness
addressed in a competent manner.
Stand back and watch more taxpayer money wasted.
Homlessness , tells the strib of being stretched thin. Some people in letters
to editor blame lack of money. The money has poured in over several years and
has been wasted.
FYI....I will have to lay out over a thousand dollars to get HHH emails.
After the latest evidence that the idiots,( supposed experts on homelessness
)will be allowed to continue screwing up.....I am not expending energy or money
, tilting at any further windmills in any attempt to have homelessness
addressed in a competent manner.
Stand back and watch more taxpayer money wasted.
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