> With all due respect (again) to Ms. Palandri, I hope she reads ballots
> more carefully than she reads posts on this forum.
>
> I said that being an election judge is a *voluntary* job. Ms. P responds:
>
>> Nope:
>>
>> Election Judges are paid. All workers at Mpls Elections
>> are paid. You can waive being paid if you want, you can
>> donate your wages to a non profit ( I do every year to
>> Planned Parenthood)- but we are paid.
>
> Right - you do the job *voluntarily*, of your own free will and with
> complete information about the duties expected of you, whether paid or
> not. You are *not* dragged off the street; the service is not exacted
> from you against your will; it's not even as onerous as jury duty.
> Indeed, you get *taxpayer money* - and, whatdya know, I'm a *taxpayer!*
>
>> "With all due respect, Gina - so what?"( Mitch B)
>>
>> Just know we are paying for this to be done. I think with
>> the lack of true understanding of what all the processes
>> are, and how much work an election really is, it's hard
>> to make these crack of the tongue remarks that it's ok
>> that we these folks that have to do a pile of votes for
>> Lassie or dead cats, file them, document them, tally them, I
>> am sure input them in the SOS website that, that labor could
>> of gone for something else is hard for someone to
>> understand.
>
> Here's the problem, Gina; you start with a faulty assumption - actually,
> several.
>
> I DO understand the processes. I started covering elections as a reporter
> when I was 16. I have good friends who are election judges. I know the
> system EVERY BIT as well as you do.
>
> You need to stop assuming that everyone who disagrees with you is an
> idiot, uninformed, or operating from base motives.
>
> And now we get into the scary stuff:
>
>> "Half of it is to self-audit the
>> system - to make sure my vote is counted. "( Mitch B)
>>
>> I think it's time you sign up to be an election judge.
>
> "If you don't do the job, you have no right to complain". It's a logical
> fallacy behind which every bad cop, every burned-out troll city
> administrative employee, and every burned out person stuck in a job that
> other people depend on relies on to try to impart guilt on anyone who
> raises a peep in complaint.
>
> I might sign up someday (I've thought about it, but it's been completely
> impractical for the past several elections) - and then again, I might not.
> Either way, it makes no difference; we have the right to write in anyone
> we want. It's part of our franchise, for better or worse; likewise, it's
> *part of your job*, the one for which you volunteered (with or without
> pay) of your own free will.
>
> Either way, it's of no import to this discussion.
>
>> Self-audit the system can be done far better by an insider
>> who sees how the process works than an outsider.
>
> Patent rubbish, and a little scary to boot.
>
> I started writing in my cat BECAUSE of an extended conversation with a
> good friend who is an election judge, a guy who told me "how the sausage
> is made" in elections. That you (or anyone) would assume, for whatever
> reason, that I do this for any less-informed reason says more about you
> than me.
>
> But let's go back to your rather curious statement, Gina; are you saying
> that the system is set up to be more transparent to "insiders" than to the
> mere peasants?
>
> Please - do explain.
>
> Mitch Berg
> The Midway
>
>
>
>
> mitchell berg
> The Midway, Saint Paul
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