On 31/08/2013 5:12 a.m., Brian Sandle wrote:
> On 8/30/2013 8:41 PM, David Lloyd wrote:
>> Kia ora comrade Brian
>>
>>
>> On 30/08/2013, at 2:29 PM, Brian Sandle <<email obscured>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/30/2013 12:21 PM, Rik Tindall wrote:
>>>> Hi Brian, Sunday it is.
>>>>
>>>> Do you mean Syria?
>>> Yes, a lot of people are saying that the chemical weapon was one of the
>>> many weapons given to the rebels.
>> A lot? The only ones saying this are from the corrupt Assad regime.
> Assad suppressed people by keeping them in prison, maybe 20years. But
> that is good compared to what the "insurgents" have been doing with the
> weapons they have been provided with. Assad haters are saying it.
> "Syrian Girl". British politician George Galloway.
>
>
>> Are you seriously saying that the rebels were given chemical weapons by
the west comrade Brian?
> Why would Assad poison his own people if he wished to stay in power?
US Senator John Kerry said on TV3 News that the anticipated attack on
Syria is really part of a wider plan than Syria and Iran and moving on
to be encompassing North Korea and Hasbullah, watever he means by that.
US had been supporting Iraq in the war against Iran. There is opinion
that the Iraqi Kurds may have been gassed incidentally or accidently as
part of that, that gassing though being used as an excuse to take back
power from Sadam Hussein's Iraq by a war.
About the Syrian gassing there are claims that the gas came from Saudi
Arabia, and was intended for Al Qaeda's use, but got into hands of
other rebels who did not know what the gas bombs were and there was an
accidental detonation which the rebels admit.
<youtube.com/watch?v=iz0TxVmq3-Q> reporting supposedly reputable
journalists.
You call me Comrade Brian, David. So you must not have read me speaking
out about the millions of Ukranian peasants starved to death by the
Kremlin in the early 1930s for trying to resist collectivization.
Now we are facing what Sheldon Wolin terms as ïnverted totalitarianism,
where corporates rule without democracy. But it is interesting that UK,
though pretty much under the US corporate thumb, seems able to resist
joining the US attempt to war with Syria. Note the French are however
supporting the US, those French who bombed the little Rainbow Warrior
for supporting our NZ Government anti-nuclear policy. I feel the protest
starting at Latimer Sq today around 2.30 and walking past our damaged
Cathedral is attached to resisting the US corporate grip again of
inverted totalitarianism. Does it really have to be war with North Korea
to protect our inverted totalitarianism?
At least here, the corporates have plenty of work to do rebuilding
without having to bomb everything first. A lot to outwit.
Brian
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>>> I also wonder about Egypt with the Muslim Brotherhood demonstration
>>> being attacked with live bullets after one of "them" started the
>>> throwing of stones.
>> Egypt has been a corrupt military dictatorship for decades. The Egyptian
military cracks down hard on any trouble makers.
> So you agree that could be false flag?
>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Locally we want no connection, I believe. We want
>>>> genuine, lasting peace.
>>> Yes so we need to know that we cannot rule out that physically
>>> challenging actions, supposedly coming from within the ranks of our
>>> demonstrators, may actually be a ploy to allow police to move us on.
>> LOL! You can't be serious comrade?!! Why would police move in on
demonstrators in NZ? This has not happened since the Springbok tour and is
unlikely to happen again in the foreseeable future. New Zealanders are too
passive to stage violent protests; life is easy here.
> A large passive protest provides a problem for police, there being too
> many to arrest easily. But if throwing can be sparked off then more
> forceful means can be used to clear them away.
>
>>> Something had been thrown at the meeting outside the Copthorne about
>>> ECAN. Do you know about that?
>> O my god… tyranny.
> Not sure what you mean. There was a big protest when elected ECAN
> Councillors were replaced by appointed Commissioners. There was a
> meeting in the Copthorne. As it was night I did not see all but someone
> threw an object at a person/people on the stairs in to the hotel, and
> was I believe arrested. No-one imitated him.
>
>>>> But that aside, if you do want positive change and justice in this
>>>> world, the need is to achieve it locally.
>>> So if there is a corporate push from outside to take our water and farms
>>> and maybe modify our food then how do we relate to that?
>> If? How can our farms and water be taken? It is physically impossible to
take a farm and will our water be pumped into tankers and taken to foreign
countries?
> Your point being that if ownership/control of our water and farms goes
> to foreign hands we still can what?
>
>
>>>> Do not become sidetracked by the myriad distractions thrown up daily,
>>>> for these are your defeat.
>>> But a lot of people may think we are just a nuisance distraction. Need
>>> to get to the source?
>> I don't think the authorities will be concerned about a couple of nuisance
distractions like you comrade Brian and Rik.