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From: Laura Koprowski Date: Jul 07 21:03 UTC Short link

Since all of the discussion and attention on streetcars in the spring, it seems
like summer has brought in a season of exploring and openness to thinking about
creating a regional transportation system for central Ohio - something broader
and yet inclusive of streetcars. We could be looking at more transit, more bike
trails, passenger rail, etc.

I'm curious how this concept resonates with the group and also encourage
everyone to listen to Open Line on WOSU 820am tomorrow, July 8 at 10am.  The
topic to be discussed is the present and past of mass transit in Central Ohio,
with Mid-Ohio Regional Planning Commission (MORPC) Executive Director Chester
Jourdan, Central Ohio Transit Authority (COTA) President and CEO and Ohio
Public Transportation Association (OPTA) President William Lhota, and Columbus
City Council Member Maryellen O’Shaughnessy”.

Open Line is a live, public affairs talk show, with listener phone calls, on
WOSU public radio.  Open Line is streamed live, podcast and archived at
www.wosu.org/radio/radio-open-line.

The format of Open Line is a conversation between the host and his guests for
the first 20 minutes to lay groundwork for the discussion.  Then the show opens
the lines to callers. You can also email questions to <email obscured>.

Please share this email with others. It would be great to get some good,
thoughtful and helpful questions to the show.

And also some good, thoughtful, helpful comments here at CORIF.

From: Elizabeth Ike Date: Jul 08 15:09 UTC Short link

What are every one's thoughts on the WOSU Open Line interview?  The thing
that keeps running through my mind is, how can we, the public, convince
policy and decision makers that we are behind them--both philosophically and
financially--in developing an effective mass transit system?

This may be a wild thought, but what if there were a campaign that either
actually collected citizen donations toward mass transit in Central Ohio, or
served as a petition/commitment to support the local funding needs for a
thoughtful and comprehensive mass transit system.  It seems like people
(finally!) realize that something "bold" needs to be done, but how can
regular citizens help to light the fire and keep it burning?

I am looking forward to reading what everyone thinks!

Best,
Liz
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Laura Koprowski <<email obscured>>
wrote:

> Since all of the discussion and attention on streetcars in the spring, it
> seems like summer has brought in a season of exploring and openness to
> thinking about creating a regional transportation system for central Ohio -
> something broader and yet inclusive of streetcars. We could be looking at
> more transit, more bike trails, passenger rail, etc.
>
> I'm curious how this concept resonates with the group and also encourage
> everyone to listen to Open Line on WOSU 820am tomorrow, July 8 at 10am.  The
> topic to be discussed is the present and past of mass transit in Central
> Ohio, with Mid-Ohio Regional Planning Commission (MORPC) Executive Director
> Chester Jourdan, Central Ohio Transit Authority (COTA) President and CEO and
> Ohio Public Transportation Association (OPTA) President William Lhota, and
> Columbus City Council Member Maryellen O'Shaughnessy".
>
> Open Line is a live, public affairs talk show, with listener phone calls,
> on WOSU public radio.  Open Line is streamed live, podcast and archived at
> www.wosu.org/radio/radio-open-line.
>
> The format of Open Line is a conversation between the host and his guests
> for the first 20 minutes to lay groundwork for the discussion.  Then the
> show opens the lines to callers. You can also email questions to
> <email obscured>.
>
> Please share this email with others. It would be great to get some good,
> thoughtful and helpful questions to the show.
>
> And also some good, thoughtful, helpful comments here at CORIF.
>
>
> Laura Koprowski
> Grandview Heights
> Info about Laura Koprowski:
> http://forums.e-democracy.org/p/rWdCPb5lpdpAR7zEZTxns
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From: Andrew Miller Date: Jul 08 15:22 UTC Short link

Well, it was nice that Mike asked my questionvia email although he didn't
really ask it.He shortened what I was asking to see what the city could do to
sell theideato people who didn't already "getit". Really what I was asking
(almost verbatim) was, other than Mary Ellen, why don'tcity leaders like Mayor
Mike lead by example and usepublic transit orbicycle? Mayor Daleybicycles to
work almost daily inChicago andit is his example that has helped to sell
Chicago on transit options. Not so long agoChicago's transitinfrastructure was
in dire straights but it's seen a 180* turn around. Most people I talk to don't
seethere being support for transit options here in Central OH and I think that
is because thepeople at the top don't use it either. It's hard to expect other
people to buy into something you only half heartedly believe in yourself.
Sorry, I'm a bit touchy about people who don't do and instead only talk.
Andrew Miller
http://andrew-miller.com
http://elephantsonbicycles.com



----- Original Message ----
From: Elizabeth Ike <<email obscured>>
To: Laura Koprowski <<email obscured>>
Cc: Central Ohio Regional Issues Forum <<email obscured>>
Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2008 11:08:58 AM
Subject: Re: [CORIF] Creating a Regional Transportation System

What are every one's thoughts on the WOSU Open Line interview? The thing
that keeps running through my mind is, how can we, the public, convince
policy and decision makers that we are behind them--both philosophically and
financially--in developing an effective mass transit system?

This may be a wild thought, but what if there were a campaign that either
actually collected citizen donations toward mass transit in Central Ohio, or
served as a petition/commitment to support the local funding needs for a
thoughtful and comprehensive mass transit system. It seems like people
(finally!) realize that something "bold" needs to be done, but how can
regular citizens help to light the fire and keep it burning?

I am looking forward to reading what everyone thinks!

Best,
Liz
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Laura Koprowski <<email obscured>>
wrote:

> Since all of the discussion and attention on streetcars in the spring, it
> seems like summer has brought in a season of exploring and openness to
> thinking about creating a regional transportation system for central Ohio -
> something broader and yet inclusive of streetcars. We could be looking at
> more transit, more bike trails, passenger rail, etc.
>
> I'm curious how this concept resonates with the group and also encourage
> everyone to listen to Open Line on WOSU 820am tomorrow, July 8 at 10am. The
> topic to be discussed is the present and past of mass transit in Central
> Ohio, with Mid-Ohio Regional Planning Commission (MORPC) Executive Director
> Chester Jourdan, Central Ohio Transit Authority (COTA) President and CEO and
> Ohio Public Transportation Association (OPTA) President William Lhota, and
> Columbus City Council Member Maryellen O'Shaughnessy".
>
> Open Line is a live, public affairs talk show, with listener phone calls,
> on WOSU public radio. Open Line is streamed live, podcast and archived at
> www.wosu.org/radio/radio-open-line.
>
> The format of Open Line is a conversation between the host and his guests
> for the first 20 minutes to lay groundwork for the discussion. Then the
> show opens the lines to callers. You can also email questions to
> <email obscured>.
>
> Please share this email with others. It would be great to get some good,
> thoughtful and helpful questions to the show.
>
> And also some good, thoughtful, helpful comments here at CORIF.
>
>
> Laura Koprowski
> Grandview Heights
> Info about Laura Koprowski:
> http://forums.e-democracy.org/p/rWdCPb5lpdpAR7zEZTxns
>
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From: Andrew Bremer Date: Jul 08 15:43 UTC Short link

I think it was a good conversation at least.  I am glad that I got
through via email as my last question to the group.  Unfortunately,
the host failed to read my full name or especially what organization I
was representing.

I am seeing a lot of talk about this issue and we have wonderful
momentum going for us right now.  While I have not heard of the idea
of taking donations to actually build more transit and transportation
infrastructure, I think it is an interesting idea.  The real action
will be with the Federal Transportation Bill and any actions at the
General Assembly.  I am working with my staff, board and our community
leaders to see what exactly a campaign would look like to push for
these types of improvements.

I may from the group that's pushing inter-city trains, but I keep
pointing out that the Ohio Hub Plan has provisions for local commuter
rail connections much like the earlier gentleman commented on
connecting the county seats in central Ohio.  Think about Athens,
Washington Courthouse, Newark, Zanesville, Delaware, Marysville all
connected to Columbus with light or heavy rail.  Now, there's a system
that feeder busses and traditional downtowns can feed into.

Thanks for the discussion.
Andrew Bremer
All Aboard Ohio

www.allaboardohio.org

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 11:22 AM, chivespa1 <<email obscured>> wrote:
> Well, it was nice that Mike asked my questionvia email although he didn't
really ask it.He shortened what I was asking to see what the city could do to
sell theideato people who didn't already "getit". Really what I was asking
(almost verbatim) was, other than Mary Ellen, why don'tcity leaders like Mayor
Mike lead by example and usepublic transit orbicycle? Mayor Daleybicycles to
work almost daily inChicago andit is his example that has helped to sell
Chicago on transit options. Not so long agoChicago's transitinfrastructure was
in dire straights but it's seen a 180* turn around. Most people I talk to don't
seethere being support for transit options here in Central OH and I think that
is because thepeople at the top don't use it either. It's hard to expect other
people to buy into something you only half heartedly believe in yourself.
Sorry, I'm a bit touchy about people who don't do and instead only talk.

> Andrew Miller
> http://andrew-miller.com
> http://elephantsonbicycles.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Elizabeth Ike <<email obscured>>
> To: Laura Koprowski <<email obscured>>
> Cc: Central Ohio Regional Issues Forum <<email obscured>>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2008 11:08:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [CORIF] Creating a Regional Transportation System
>
> What are every one's thoughts on the WOSU Open Line interview? The thing
> that keeps running through my mind is, how can we, the public, convince
> policy and decision makers that we are behind them--both philosophically and
> financially--in developing an effective mass transit system?
>
> This may be a wild thought, but what if there were a campaign that either
> actually collected citizen donations toward mass transit in Central Ohio, or
> served as a petition/commitment to support the local funding needs for a
> thoughtful and comprehensive mass transit system. It seems like people
> (finally!) realize that something "bold" needs to be done, but how can
> regular citizens help to light the fire and keep it burning?
>
> I am looking forward to reading what everyone thinks!
>
> Best,
> Liz
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Laura Koprowski <<email obscured>>
> wrote:
>
>> Since all of the discussion and attention on streetcars in the spring, it
>> seems like summer has brought in a season of exploring and openness to
>> thinking about creating a regional transportation system for central Ohio -
>> something broader and yet inclusive of streetcars. We could be looking at
>> more transit, more bike trails, passenger rail, etc.
>>
>> I'm curious how this concept resonates with the group and also encourage
>> everyone to listen to Open Line on WOSU 820am tomorrow, July 8 at 10am. The
>> topic to be discussed is the present and past of mass transit in Central
>> Ohio, with Mid-Ohio Regional Planning Commission (MORPC) Executive Director
>> Chester Jourdan, Central Ohio Transit Authority (COTA) President and CEO and
>> Ohio Public Transportation Association (OPTA) President William Lhota, and
>> Columbus City Council Member Maryellen O'Shaughnessy".
>>
>> Open Line is a live, public affairs talk show, with listener phone calls,
>> on WOSU public radio. Open Line is streamed live, podcast and archived at
>> www.wosu.org/radio/radio-open-line.
>>
>> The format of Open Line is a conversation between the host and his guests
>> for the first 20 minutes to lay groundwork for the discussion. Then the
>> show opens the lines to callers. You can also email questions to
>> <email obscured>.
>>
>> Please share this email with others. It would be great to get some good,
>> thoughtful and helpful questions to the show.
>>
>> And also some good, thoughtful, helpful comments here at CORIF.
>>
>>
>> Laura Koprowski
>> Grandview Heights
>> Info about Laura Koprowski:
>> http://forums.e-democracy.org/p/rWdCPb5lpdpAR7zEZTxns
>>
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> Elizabeth Ike
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Executive Director
All Aboard Ohio

309 South 4th Street Suite 304
Columbus, Ohio 43215
Office: (614) 228-6005
Cell: (614) 657-4184
<email obscured>

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From: iraweiss Weiss Date: Jul 08 15:50 UTC Short link

I'll listen after I'm done watching the Tour de France. It will be available as
an MP3 download.

As I expressed yesterday at the CAC meeting, here are my thoughts on an
integrated multi-modal transit system.

In my crystal ball, I can picture how these modes would work together in a
comprehensive Central Ohio transportation system.

For most people, you can look at transportation modes as walking for shorter
distances, bicycling for intermediate to longer commuting distances, and
coupling walking and bicycling with mass transit for the furthest distances.

First, realize that every trip begins and ends on your own two feet. In an
ideal region with much more mass transit and better bicycle and pedestrian
facilities than you see in Central Ohio today it might look like:

1.	Walk for the shortest trips. This also means designing complete
neighborhoods with shopping, education and entertainment options.
2.	Get on your bike for shorter to intermediate distances
3.	For longer trips just ride or walk to a bus or streetcar stop (or train
station if it is nearby)
4.	Get on a bus or streetcar (and load your bike on rack if you use it) Buses
act as a feeder into a rail system or for cross-town routes. Streetcars connect
neighborhoods. We have successfully accommodated bicycles on the COTA bus
system. Similarly, we should purchase streetcars that can transport bicycles
and require them to do so.
5.	Get off the bus or streetcar and walk to a train (and put your bike on the
rack in the train – this is how they do it in Minneapolis). In my travels I’ve
seen how DC and suburban MD and VA have a system in place with buses, walkers
and bicycles feeding into their Metro and this improves air quality as fewer
buses have to venture into the central city.
6.	Get off the train (and remember to take you bike with you and either get on
another bus, or ride or walk to your destination
7.	If you took a bus, get off the bus and walk or ride your bike to your
destination (lock your bike to ample bike racks that are a part of the Bikeway
Plan if you did not walk)

This kind of multi-modal system that utilizes active transportation by walking
and bicycling and mass transit is what we need in Central Ohio. Streetcars and
in the future, light rail are critical components of such a system. We should
not be satisfied with anything less.


Ira S. Weiss
11735 Eddington Ave NW
Pickerington OH 43147-9194
<email obscured>

From: Andrew Miller Date: Jul 08 15:56 UTC Short link

Ah, well then maybe that explains it, maybe Mike was referringto you as the
andrew asking thequestion and not me as the andrew asking the question --- or
maybe he calculated it this way so we would both be curious :)
Anyhow, yes, I agree that it was a good discussion but I really feel like the
lack of leadership in our community taking steps to use the infrastructure we
already have isa big part of why wefind such lack luster support community
wide. I don't believe there was anything said todayduring the show that really
would have energized anyone who isn't already a proponent of transit to change
their mind.
What if we hadsome of the CEO's of companies such as Nationwide, Huntington,
etc. taking COTA downtown. What if those same companies found out where
somemajor populationcenters of their employees are located, perhaps Polaris or
maybe Pickerington, andthen the company paysfor bus service for employees to
park andride from those locations, offering wider coverage around peak travel
times. This is what both Microsoft and Google do outside of Seattle.
When workers see their bosses taking public transit they are much more likely
to join in onit. With that in mind COTA et al should be working to win over the
100 or so key individuals andget them to use transit on a regular basis;get
them to lead the way with the current system so that there is funding and
support foran expanded system of the future.
Andrew Miller
http://andrew-miller.com
http://elephantsonbicycles.com



----- Original Message ----
From: Andrew Bremer <<email obscured>>
To: chivespa1 <<email obscured>>
Cc: Central Ohio Regional Issues Forum <<email obscured>>
Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2008 11:40:22 AM
Subject: Re: [CORIF] Creating a Regional Transportation System

I think it was a good conversation at least. I am glad that I got
through via email as my last question to the group. Unfortunately,
the host failed to read my full name or especially what organization I
was representing.

I am seeing a lot of talk about this issue and we have wonderful
momentum going for us right now. While I have not heard of the idea
of taking donations to actually build more transit and transportation
infrastructure, I think it is an interesting idea. The real action
will be with the Federal Transportation Bill and any actions at the
General Assembly. I am working with my staff, board and our community
leaders to see what exactly a campaign would look like to push for
these types of improvements.

I may from the group that's pushing inter-city trains, but I keep
pointing out that the Ohio Hub Plan has provisions for local commuter
rail connections much like the earlier gentleman commented on
connecting the county seats in central Ohio. Think about Athens,
Washington Courthouse, Newark, Zanesville, Delaware, Marysville all
connected to Columbus with light or heavy rail. Now, there's a system
that feeder busses and traditional downtowns can feed into.

Thanks for the discussion.
Andrew Bremer
All Aboard Ohio

www.allaboardohio.org

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 11:22 AM, chivespa1 <<email obscured>> wrote:
> Well, it was nice that Mike asked my questionvia email although he didn't
really ask it.He shortened what I was asking to see what the city could do to
sell theideato people who didn't already "getit". Really what I was asking
(almost verbatim) was, other than Mary Ellen, why don'tcity leaders like Mayor
Mike lead by example and usepublic transit orbicycle? Mayor Daleybicycles to
work almost daily inChicago andit is his example that has helped to sell
Chicago on transit options. Not so long agoChicago's transitinfrastructure was
in dire straights but it's seen a 180* turn around. Most people I talk to don't
seethere being support for transit options here in Central OH and I think that
is because thepeople at the top don't use it either. It's hard to expect other
people to buy into something you only half heartedly believe in yourself.
Sorry, I'm a bit touchy about people who don't do and instead only talk.
> Andrew Miller
> http://andrew-miller.com
> http://elephantsonbicycles.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Elizabeth Ike <<email obscured>>
> To: Laura Koprowski <<email obscured>>
> Cc: Central Ohio Regional Issues Forum <<email obscured>>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2008 11:08:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [CORIF] Creating a Regional Transportation System
>
> What are every one's thoughts on the WOSU Open Line interview? The thing
> that keeps running through my mind is, how can we, the public, convince
> policy and decision makers that we are behind them--both philosophically and
> financially--in developing an effective mass transit system?
>
> This may be a wild thought, but what if there were a campaign that either
> actually collected citizen donations toward mass transit in Central Ohio, or
> served as a petition/commitment to support the local funding needs for a
> thoughtful and comprehensive mass transit system. It seems like people
> (finally!) realize that something "bold" needs to be done, but how can
> regular citizens help to light the fire and keep it burning?
>
> I am looking forward to reading what everyone thinks!
>
> Best,
> Liz
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Laura Koprowski <<email obscured>>
> wrote:
>
>> Since all of the discussion and attention on streetcars in the spring, it
>> seems like summer has brought in a season of exploring and openness to
>> thinking about creating a regional transportation system for central Ohio -
>> something broader and yet inclusive of streetcars. We could be looking at
>> more transit, more bike trails, passenger rail, etc.
>>
>> I'm curious how this concept resonates with the group and also encourage
>> everyone to listen to Open Line on WOSU 820am tomorrow, July 8 at 10am. The
>> topic to be discussed is the present and past of mass transit in Central
>> Ohio, with Mid-Ohio Regional Planning Commission (MORPC) Executive Director
>> Chester Jourdan, Central Ohio Transit Authority (COTA) President and CEO and
>> Ohio Public Transportation Association (OPTA) President William Lhota, and
>> Columbus City Council Member Maryellen O'Shaughnessy".
>>
>> Open Line is a live, public affairs talk show, with listener phone calls,
>> on WOSU public radio. Open Line is streamed live, podcast and archived at
>> www.wosu.org/radio/radio-open-line.
>>
>> The format of Open Line is a conversation between the host and his guests
>> for the first 20 minutes to lay groundwork for the discussion. Then the
>> show opens the lines to callers. You can also email questions to
>> <email obscured>.
>>
>> Please share this email with others. It would be great to get some good,
>> thoughtful and helpful questions to the show.
>>
>> And also some good, thoughtful, helpful comments here at CORIF.
>>
>>
>> Laura Koprowski
>> Grandview Heights
>> Info about Laura Koprowski:
>> http://forums.e-democracy.org/p/rWdCPb5lpdpAR7zEZTxns
>>
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All Aboard Ohio

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Columbus, Ohio 43215
Office: (614) 228-6005
Cell: (614) 657-4184
<email obscured>

www.allaboardohio.org

From: Brett Gerke Date: Jul 08 17:01 UTC Short link

While I find it admirable that Mayor Daly rides his bicycle to work each day
and supports mass transit in Chicago, I am struggling to find the parallels
between Chicago and Columbus.  Maybe someone can help me here.  They appear to
be two very different cities.  On another topic, I am under the impression that
Mayor Coleman is only looking at street cars from downtown to the OSU campus.
With the parking problems in both places I am wondering what that will help(or
hurt).  Wouldn't it make more sense to try to connect bedroom communities to
the downtown?

Brett Gerke

From: livingston.28 Livingston Date: Jul 08 18:26 UTC Short link

To my mind, the high point of the OpenLine conversation was Chester Jourdan's
insistence that we keep our eyes on the big picture: think in terms of region,
and at least 10 -20 years out. What do we want Central Ohio to look like?  If
we can raise the discussion to that level, we'll have options. If not, we'll be
stuck squabbling over pennies.

Andrew's right that what's needed here is leadership to hold the vision. I
don't think it's a matter of getting individuals to take the bus or bike to
work (Mike Coleman is no Mayor Daley) so much as it is to get the right
perspective and framework for the discussion. The issue is not next week or
next year, but how to make a long-term commitment.

That said, I wonder whether anyone has thoughts about what sort of regional
governance it would take to make such a commitment.  I wonder whether our
current system doesn't overvalue consensus and prevent the emergence of leaders
with vision.

Rick Livingston

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