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From: Peter Tharaldson Date: May 14 03:38 UTC Short link

The Independents referenced were spelled with a capitol "I" and referenced our
candidate Tammy Lee...so I will take some liberty to speak up.

  Yes, it is very likely there will be a big I candidate this year along those
lines. Since this is a Minneapolis list I can promise you that he or she will
not be anything less than a strong  2nd in the city (and given the nature of
this year the whole 5th). Moreover, it has been my fair impression that
Independents of most sorts are quite libertarian on social issues. Of course
the real question in Minneapolis is how many Republicans we win over ;-) as it
was the last time around. I bet it will be even more.

  Peter Tharaldson
  5th Chair, Independence Party
  Loring Park


David Brauer <david@tcq.net> wrote:
  Wizard writes, of Barb White:

"We might have poll watchers who say, 'You got to stand up straight, be sober
and be able to read the ballot,''' she said.

Me:

I must've missed the posture and sobriety tests in the Constitution. I'd pass
the latter but not the former.

I won't even get into the literacy tests that would've denied Ms. White a vote
in many states during America's troubled history.

Not a good start for winning over those independents ...



David Brauer
Kingfield, Minneapolis
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From: Jordan Kushner Date: May 14 12:05 UTC Short link

I think it would be interesting, and most effective, if the Independence
Party ran a candidate who tended toward a more "Liberterian"- perspective
sometimes advocated in that Party.  The main points being strong opposition
to U.S. miliatry invervention and civil liberties violations. The effect
would be advocating immediate withdrawal from Iraq, opposing militaristic
rhetoric about war with Iran, opposing the billions of dollars to Israel
which are used to oppress Palestinians and inflame hatred against the U.S.,
the suspension of constitutional liberties reflected by warrantless
wiretapping  and Guantanamo Bay.  (Such a candidate would be in contrast to
Tammy Lee who very conventional establish positions in order to contrast
herself with Keith Ellison whom she labelled as "extreme").  This agenda
would fundamentally challenge and therefore pose an alternative to both the
Democratic and Republican program, which the incumbent Keith Ellison now at
least goes along with and in some instances affirmatively supports.  Althugh
a candidate, in order to have my support, would also  recongize the urgent
need to reverse the economic equality in our society and insist on
aggressive measures to protect our planet from ecological destruction, I am
putting forth a suggestion that seems feasible for the Independence Party.

Jordan S. Kushner
Golden Valley


----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Tharaldson" <pjtharald@yahoo.com>
To: "David Brauer" <david@tcq.net>; "'Minneapolis Issues Forum'"
<mpls@forums.e-democracy.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 10:38 PM
Subject: [Mpls] competition for K. Ellison in Nov.


> The Independents referenced were spelled with a capitol "I" and referenced
> our candidate Tammy Lee...so I will take some liberty to speak up.
>
>  Yes, it is very likely there will be a big I candidate this year along
> those lines. Since this is a Minneapolis list I can promise you that he or
> she will not be anything less than a strong  2nd in the city (and given
> the nature of this year the whole 5th). Moreover, it has been my fair
> impression that Independents of most sorts are quite libertarian on social
> issues. Of course the real question in Minneapolis is how many Republicans
> we win over ;-) as it was the last time around. I bet it will be even
> more.
>
>  Peter Tharaldson
>  5th Chair, Independence Party
>  Loring Park
>
>
> David Brauer <david@tcq.net> wrote:
>  Wizard writes, of Barb White:
>
> "We might have poll watchers who say, 'You got to stand up straight, be
> sober and be able to read the ballot,''' she said.
>
> Me:
>
> I must've missed the posture and sobriety tests in the Constitution. I'd
> pass the latter but not the former.
>
> I won't even get into the literacy tests that would've denied Ms. White a
> vote in many states during America's troubled history.
>
> Not a good start for winning over those independents ...
>
>
>
> David Brauer
> Kingfield, Minneapolis
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From: Peter Tharaldson Date: May 14 12:26 UTC Short link

Hi Jordan

  well said (have i ever said that to you?).

  One little note, however. Tammy actually did not play it safe. The press
missed much of that. As an example she advocated publicly for a collecting
federal revenue through a "sales tax" (replacing much of the income tax
system). There was considerable progressivity built into the proposal for
income earners on the lower end (btw- our other federal candidates did the same
thing). The main point of that conversion was to drive up savings among young
people. What is most important to realize is that when she advocated it people
listened, rather than dismissing it as they would had one of the more
cynically-viewed and polarized sides had said it. While we don't have the
"power" factor, we do have the "innocent" factor, which means people are more
willing to listen to our ideas.

  Her environmental positions were just as cutting edge. Everything policy wise
was about getting solutions implemented rather than posturing. They were fully
costed and respected people's intelligence. I wish that got in the news.

  Ideology:

  In the battle between the left and the right a very interesting thing has
happened. Any sense of federalism has been abandoned. The dogmatic left seems
to advocate for more government at all levels (I say dogmatic because I respect
enough Democrats and Republicans to exclude them). The dogmatic right seems to
advocate for less at all levels. The big I independents, and in fact many of
the small i independents understand and respect federalism. We clearly state
that government should be conducted at the most local level possible (but
unlike the Republicans we don't try to cut that local level too). Our federal
footpring in candidates and beliefs is far far more limited government than it
is at hte next level down and the next level after that.

  Your input was definitely right on though.

  Thanks

  Peter Tharaldson
  CD5 Chair IPMN
  Loring Park

"Jordan S. Kushner" <kushn002@umn.edu> wrote:
  I think it would be interesting, and most effective, if the Independence
Party ran a candidate who tended toward a more "Liberterian"- perspective
sometimes advocated in that Party. The main points being strong opposition
to U.S. miliatry invervention and civil liberties violations. The effect
would be advocating immediate withdrawal from Iraq, opposing militaristic
rhetoric about war with Iran, opposing the billions of dollars to Israel
which are used to oppress Palestinians and inflame hatred against the U.S.,
the suspension of constitutional liberties reflected by warrantless
wiretapping and Guantanamo Bay. (Such a candidate would be in contrast to
Tammy Lee who very conventional establish positions in order to contrast
herself with Keith Ellison whom she labelled as "extreme"). This agenda
would fundamentally challenge and therefore pose an alternative to both the
Democratic and Republican program, which the incumbent Keith Ellison now at
least goes along with and in some instances affirmatively supports. Althugh
a candidate, in order to have my support, would also recongize the urgent
need to reverse the economic equality in our society and insist on
aggressive measures to protect our planet from ecological destruction, I am
putting forth a suggestion that seems feasible for the Independence Party.

Jordan S. Kushner
Golden Valley

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Tharaldson"

To: "David Brauer" ; "'Minneapolis Issues Forum'"

Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 10:38 PM
Subject: [Mpls] competition for K. Ellison in Nov.

> The Independents referenced were spelled with a capitol "I" and referenced
> our candidate Tammy Lee...so I will take some liberty to speak up.
>
> Yes, it is very likely there will be a big I candidate this year along
> those lines. Since this is a Minneapolis list I can promise you that he or
> she will not be anything less than a strong 2nd in the city (and given
> the nature of this year the whole 5th). Moreover, it has been my fair
> impression that Independents of most sorts are quite libertarian on social
> issues. Of course the real question in Minneapolis is how many Republicans
> we win over ;-) as it was the last time around. I bet it will be even
> more.
>
> Peter Tharaldson
> 5th Chair, Independence Party
> Loring Park
>
>
> David Brauer wrote:
> Wizard writes, of Barb White:
>
> "We might have poll watchers who say, 'You got to stand up straight, be
> sober and be able to read the ballot,''' she said.
>
> Me:
>
> I must've missed the posture and sobriety tests in the Constitution. I'd
> pass the latter but not the former.
>
> I won't even get into the literacy tests that would've denied Ms. White a
> vote in many states during America's troubled history.
>
> Not a good start for winning over those independents ...
>
>
>
> David Brauer
> Kingfield, Minneapolis
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From: Michael Cavlan Date: May 14 16:52 UTC Short link

There will also be a Green Party candidate for Congress in the 5th CD.

Just for the record.

Michael Cavlan
Powderhorn

-----Original Message-----
>From: Peter Tharaldson <pjtharald@yahoo.com>
>Sent: May 13, 2008 10:38 PM
>To: David Brauer <david@tcq.net>, 'Minneapolis Issues Forum'
<mpls@forums.e-democracy.org>
>Subject: [Mpls] competition for K. Ellison in Nov.
>
>The Independents referenced were spelled with a capitol "I" and referenced our
candidate Tammy Lee...so I will take some liberty to speak up.
>
>  Yes, it is very likely there will be a big I candidate this year along those
lines. Since this is a Minneapolis list I can promise you that he or she will
not be anything less than a strong  2nd in the city (and given the nature of
this year the whole 5th). Moreover, it has been my fair impression that
Independents of most sorts are quite libertarian on social issues. Of course
the real question in Minneapolis is how many Republicans we win over ;-) as it
was the last time around. I bet it will be even more.
>
>  Peter Tharaldson
>  5th Chair, Independence Party
>  Loring Park
>
>
>David Brauer <david@tcq.net> wrote:
>  Wizard writes, of Barb White:
>
>"We might have poll watchers who say, 'You got to stand up straight, be sober
and be able to read the ballot,''' she said.
>
>Me:
>
>I must've missed the posture and sobriety tests in the Constitution. I'd pass
the latter but not the former.
>
>I won't even get into the literacy tests that would've denied Ms. White a vote
in many states during America's troubled history.
>
>Not a good start for winning over those independents ...
>
>
>
>David Brauer
>Kingfield, Minneapolis
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From: Annie Young Date: May 15 02:18 UTC Short link

May I point out that the Endorsing Meeting for 5th District candidates isn't
being held until this Saturday, May 17th.  So depending on endorsement, the GP
may or may not have a candidate for the 5th CD seat.

Annie Young
GP endorsed Officeholder

-----Original Message-----
From: greenpartymike [mailto:ollamhfaery@earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:52 AM
To: Peter Tharaldson; David Brauer; 'Minneapolis Issues Forum'
Subject: Re: [Mpls] competition for K. Ellison in Nov.

There will also be a Green Party candidate for Congress in the 5th CD.

Just for the record.

Michael Cavlan
Powderhorn

-----Original Message-----
>From: Peter Tharaldson <pjtharald@yahoo.com>
>Sent: May 13, 2008 10:38 PM
>To: David Brauer <david@tcq.net>, 'Minneapolis Issues Forum'
<mpls@forums.e-democracy.org>
>Subject: [Mpls] competition for K. Ellison in Nov.
>
>The Independents referenced were spelled with a capitol "I" and referenced our
candidate Tammy Lee...so I will take some liberty to speak up.
>
>  Yes, it is very likely there will be a big I candidate this year along those
lines. Since this is a Minneapolis list I can promise you that he or she will
not be anything less than a strong  2nd in the city (and given the nature of
this year the whole 5th). Moreover, it has been my fair impression that
Independents of most sorts are quite libertarian on social issues. Of course
the real question in Minneapolis is how many Republicans we win over ;-) as it
was the last time around. I bet it will be even more.
>
>  Peter Tharaldson
>  5th Chair, Independence Party
>  Loring Park
>
>
>David Brauer <david@tcq.net> wrote:
>  Wizard writes, of Barb White:
>
>"We might have poll watchers who say, 'You got to stand up straight, be sober
and be able to read the ballot,''' she said.
>
>Me:
>
>I must've missed the posture and sobriety tests in the Constitution. I'd pass
the latter but not the former.
>
>I won't even get into the literacy tests that would've denied Ms. White a vote
in many states during America's troubled history.
>
>Not a good start for winning over those independents ...
>
>
>
>David Brauer
>Kingfield, Minneapolis
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From: Annie Young Date: May 15 16:52 UTC Short link

I am passing this on in reference to other e-mails yesterday that the GP may
have a candidate for Congress.
Quote:
Farheen is the only candidate who will be up for endorsement at the
meeting this Saturday. The 5CD screening committee will be presenting
the results of an interview and written questions as per 5CD rules.

Adri announced his intention to run for the US House at the March 5cd
membership meeting, but has not been screened as yet.

No other candidates have announced their intention to seek the 5cd Green
Party's endorsement as far as I know (being on both the endorsement and
screening committees).

For those interested,
Annie Young
GP Endorsed Officeholder



-----Original Message-----
From: Annie Young [mailto:anniey@visi.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:19 PM
To: greenpartymike; Peter Tharaldson; David Brauer; 'Minneapolis Issues Forum'
Subject: Re: [Mpls] competition for K. Ellison in Nov.

May I point out that the Endorsing Meeting for 5th District candidates isn't
being held until this Saturday, May 17th.  So depending on endorsement, the GP
may or may not have a candidate for the 5th CD seat.

Annie Young
GP endorsed Officeholder

-----Original Message-----
From: greenpartymike [mailto:ollamhfaery@earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:52 AM
To: Peter Tharaldson; David Brauer; 'Minneapolis Issues Forum'
Subject: Re: [Mpls] competition for K. Ellison in Nov.

There will also be a Green Party candidate for Congress in the 5th CD.

Just for the record.

Michael Cavlan
Powderhorn

-----Original Message-----
>From: Peter Tharaldson <pjtharald@yahoo.com>
>Sent: May 13, 2008 10:38 PM
>To: David Brauer <david@tcq.net>, 'Minneapolis Issues Forum'
<mpls@forums.e-democracy.org>
>Subject: [Mpls] competition for K. Ellison in Nov.
>
>The Independents referenced were spelled with a capitol "I" and referenced our
candidate Tammy Lee...so I will take some liberty to speak up.
>
>  Yes, it is very likely there will be a big I candidate this year along those
lines. Since this is a Minneapolis list I can promise you that he or she will
not be anything less than a strong  2nd in the city (and given the nature of
this year the whole 5th). Moreover, it has been my fair impression that
Independents of most sorts are quite libertarian on social issues. Of course
the real question in Minneapolis is how many Republicans we win over ;-) as it
was the last time around. I bet it will be even more.
>
>  Peter Tharaldson
>  5th Chair, Independence Party
>  Loring Park
>
>
>David Brauer <david@tcq.net> wrote:
>  Wizard writes, of Barb White:
>
>"We might have poll watchers who say, 'You got to stand up straight, be sober
and be able to read the ballot,''' she said.
>
>Me:
>
>I must've missed the posture and sobriety tests in the Constitution. I'd pass
the latter but not the former.
>
>I won't even get into the literacy tests that would've denied Ms. White a vote
in many states during America's troubled history.
>
>Not a good start for winning over those independents ...
>
>
>
>David Brauer
>Kingfield, Minneapolis
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From: Jordan Kushner Date: May 15 22:01 UTC Short link

Keith Ellison picked up most of the Green Party constituency last time by
running on a platform consistent with the Green Party and directly appealing
for Green Party votes.  (The Green Party candidate Jay Pond's vote
percentage went from 6% in 2004 to 2% in 2006 which can only be attributed
Ellison's specific appeal to this constituency).  Given that Ellison has now
established his commitment to the national Democratic power structure at the
expense of any sort of serious peace and social justice commitment, (I am
also unaware of anything Ellison has done on the environment) it would seem
to be incumbent on the Green Party to run a candidate to represent its
values.

Jordan S. Kushner
Golden Valley

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>I am passing this on in reference to other e-mails yesterday that the GP
>may have a candidate for Congress.
> Quote:
> Farheen is the only candidate who will be up for endorsement at the
> meeting this Saturday. The 5CD screening committee will be presenting
> the results of an interview and written questions as per 5CD rules.
>
> Adri announced his intention to run for the US House at the March 5cd
> membership meeting, but has not been screened as yet.
>
> No other candidates have announced their intention to seek the 5cd Green
> Party's endorsement as far as I know (being on both the endorsement and
> screening committees).
>
> For those interested,
> Annie Young
> GP Endorsed Officeholder
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Annie Young [mailto:anniey@visi.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:19 PM
> To: greenpartymike; Peter Tharaldson; David Brauer; 'Minneapolis Issues
> Forum'
> Subject: Re: [Mpls] competition for K. Ellison in Nov.
>
> May I point out that the Endorsing Meeting for 5th District candidates
> isn't being held until this Saturday, May 17th.  So depending on
> endorsement, the GP may or may not have a candidate for the 5th CD seat.
>
> Annie Young
> GP endorsed Officeholder
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: greenpartymike [mailto:ollamhfaery@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:52 AM
> To: Peter Tharaldson; David Brauer; 'Minneapolis Issues Forum'
> Subject: Re: [Mpls] competition for K. Ellison in Nov.
>
> There will also be a Green Party candidate for Congress in the 5th CD.
>
> Just for the record.
>
> Michael Cavlan
> Powderhorn
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Peter Tharaldson <pjtharald@yahoo.com>
>>Sent: May 13, 2008 10:38 PM
>>To: David Brauer <david@tcq.net>, 'Minneapolis Issues Forum'
>><mpls@forums.e-democracy.org>
>>Subject: [Mpls] competition for K. Ellison in Nov.
>>
>>The Independents referenced were spelled with a capitol "I" and referenced
>>our candidate Tammy Lee...so I will take some liberty to speak up.
>>
>>  Yes, it is very likely there will be a big I candidate this year along
>> those lines. Since this is a Minneapolis list I can promise you that he
>> or she will not be anything less than a strong  2nd in the city (and
>> given the nature of this year the whole 5th). Moreover, it has been my
>> fair impression that Independents of most sorts are quite libertarian on
>> social issues. Of course the real question in Minneapolis is how many
>> Republicans we win over ;-) as it was the last time around. I bet it will
>> be even more.
>>
>>  Peter Tharaldson
>>  5th Chair, Independence Party
>>  Loring Park
>>
>>
>>David Brauer <david@tcq.net> wrote:
>>  Wizard writes, of Barb White:
>>
>>"We might have poll watchers who say, 'You got to stand up straight, be
>>sober and be able to read the ballot,''' she said.
>>
>>Me:
>>
>>I must've missed the posture and sobriety tests in the Constitution. I'd
>>pass the latter but not the former.
>>
>>I won't even get into the literacy tests that would've denied Ms. White a
>>vote in many states during America's troubled history.
>>
>>Not a good start for winning over those independents ...
>>
>>
>>
>>David Brauer
>>Kingfield, Minneapolis
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