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- Latest post made by Tom Goldstein at Nov 22 18:56 UTC
Last night on the illustrious East Side, in a fancy new elementary school
with a super view of downtown Saint Paul, citizens gathered to hear from the
Saint Paul Port Authority (SPPA) about the latest 3M Redevelopment Site
news. The SPPA also heard from the citizenry.
In a nutshell, what could have become a mild riot turned into the beginning
of a formal community input process.
The People made it clear that the SPPA is expected to do a much better job
in the future of communicating and involving local stakeholders. It's still
unclear for whom the SPPA works exactly, but the assumption is that they are
meant to create jobs without destroying too much in the process.
Of particular interest to a majority of the attendees was the Lantry-Bostrom
joint proclamation that no corrections facilities will be located on the
site.
No fewer than four history-minded people spoke out in favor of keeping all
the rampant bulldozing in check. As we discovered in the Magic Shop on E
7th the other year, one man's antique toilet is another Joe The Plumber's
e-Bay dream come true. I couldn't help but imagine myself going into the
SPPA President's house when he wasn't looking and throwing away everything I
didn't like. Would he accept that? Duh! Why he would ever imagine
that East Siders (and others) would just sit up in the bleachers with their
Johnson Bros. blackberry while the SPPA almost literally steamrolls through
their "house" destroying things is beyond me. But I think they got the
message last night that there will be no more of that.
I wrote a combination article-opinion piece, attached here. It's not very
good, but it has five cool pictures at the end. If you were there last
night, you might have different perceptions of what went down. So please
let me know if I got any facts wrong, or if you have other thoughts.
AMH
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3M Main Plant Facts
Note the vault and other interesting Scotch tidbits.
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Andrew,
If you keep writing like that, I'm going to have to subscribe to your blog AND
you are going to be asked to write a book about the history of the Saint Paul
Port Authority (with illustrations).
Actually, Eric, the building is new--built within the last decade. All that
remains of the original building, I believe, is one stairwell and entrance.
So, while you're correct about a school on this site not being new, the
current elementary building is relatively recent construction.
Tom Goldstein
Hamline-Midway
Eric, Your friend has sent you an e-fortune cookie, from Confucion.sino.com.rade: "Man who recall past get many dates" Bonus fortune: "Exclaim boy about girlfriend who remember every Fu king detail: 'She history!'" Xie, xie for the clarification on the school. I guess I still had Withrow Elementary on the brain, which was hardly that posh. For a Roscoe view of the 3M situation, and for stories on these other topics Central Corridor and Historic Preservation Mysteries of the Central Corridor (e.g. Turf Club) Hamline Midway History Corps Fire Station Celebrates Century of Service 3M Plans to Divest the Buildings that Shaped Its Legacy—and Saint Paul’s History Bottoms Up! The Land of Amber Waters: The History of Brewing in Minnesota Frogtown Brick Houses Placeography Happy Saint Paul Cube Customers go to http://www.historicsaintpaul.org/newsroom/publications/journal/spring_2008 Or you can SPIFload the PDF attached here. Gerry, Let's hit the next Port Authority Open House! Searching their website for "open house" yields a 3M reference, oddly enough, and a "commitment to innovation": http://www.sppa.com/economy_rd.asp So that's encouraging. I hadn't thought of building more historic hospitals before, but maybe a VA in Saint Paul is in order.
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Both Rich Kramer and Chuck Repke have pointed out to me in private that it's incorrect to suggest that JAJ Elementary is "new" construction, because the original facade, "the structure and all the outside walls, window locations, etc. are still the same as when it was built in 1910." It was also an error on my part for not clarifying that I was describing the inside of the building when I mentioned that "all that remains of the original building, I believe, is one stairwell and entrance." I guess my thinking was that if the entire interior of a building is gutted and rebuilt, as well as an addtiion put on to connect to the adjacent YMCA, it's not wrong to suggest that it's a "new" building, but in fairness, I should have described the building as "extensively remodeled" or "rebuilt" in the past decade rather than as "new." My apologies to Eric Mitchell and anybody else on the East Side who may have offended by my inexact choice of words. For those who are interested, Rich Kramer also provided me with a link to a document that describes the plans for remodeling JAJ, along with several other schools across the country, at http://www.epa.gov/dced/pdf/SmartGrowth_schools_Pub.pdf. Tom Goldstein Hamline-Midway In a message dated 11/22/2008 12:57:39 A.M. Central Standard Time, <email obscured> writes: Actually, Eric, the building is new--built within the last decade. All that remains of the original building, I believe, is one stairwell and entrance. So, while you're correct about a school on this site not being new, the current elementary building is relatively recent construction. Tom Goldstein Hamline-Midway