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From: Matthew Symonds Date: Jun 10 13:15 UTC Short link

Chris

I think the general view was that as there is a skate park in Dame Emily Park
(and plans to upgrade it) then another in Greville Smyth wouldn't be the best
use of resources. There are proposals for some BMX bumps in Greville Smyth.

I don't think that Trim Trails didn't came up at the FrOGS meetings (that I
recall). The full notes from the consultation haven't been compiled yet - I
think there were over 300 responses!. When they are typed up they'll come to a
future FrOGS meeting.

I'm sorry I don't know the next date for the FrOGS meeting - the last one was
just a couple of weeks ago. The next event is Lazy Sunday in Greville Smyth on
Sunday 6 July. there will be lots of FrOGS around in the park that day so If
you're free drop by for a chat, a cup of tea and some nice cake.

Best wishes

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:54:02 +1200> > Now with toddler I'm a regular user of
Greville Smyth. Being a bit out of the loop, ca someone up date me on the
proposals. I have seen the info on the FROGS website. These dont include two
things I think would be great for the park and it would be interesting to see
what sort of comments come back> > 1) Skate board park> 2) Trim/Fitness Trail>
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From: Ben barker Date: Jun 10 13:37 UTC Short link

Hi,

A trim trail has come up at Dame Emily too, but nothing much happens.   To
help it to happenkeep (at either or both places) someone needs to get a map
of the park, work out where a trim trail(s) would fit (eg not straight
across a football pitch) and jot down other requirements (eg would there be
distance markers?   what would they look like?).   Bring it as a proposal
for discussion to a FroGS or DEPP meeting, otherwise, it's just a vague
idea.   Cheers,   Ben.
    

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From: "Matthew Symonds" <matthewsymonds@hotmail.com>
To: "Chris Whale" <chriswhale@blueyonder.co.uk>; "Greater Bedminster
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Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: [GB-Forum] Greville Smyth Park


>
> Chris
>
> I think the general view was that as there is a skate park in Dame Emily
> Park (and plans to upgrade it) then another in Greville Smyth wouldn't be
> the best use of resources. There are proposals for some BMX bumps in
> Greville Smyth.
>
> I don't think that Trim Trails didn't came up at the FrOGS meetings (that
> I recall). The full notes from the consultation haven't been compiled
> yet - I think there were over 300 responses!. When they are typed up
> they'll come to a future FrOGS meeting.
>
> I'm sorry I don't know the next date for the FrOGS meeting - the last one
> was just a couple of weeks ago. The next event is Lazy Sunday in Greville
> Smyth on Sunday 6 July. there will be lots of FrOGS around in the park
> that day so If you're free drop by for a chat, a cup of tea and some nice
> cake.
>
> Best wishes
>
> <email obscured>> To: <email obscured>>
> From: <email obscured>> Subject: [GB-Forum] Greville Smyth
> Park> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:54:02 +1200> > Now with toddler I'm a
> regular user of Greville Smyth. Being a bit out of the loop, ca someone up
> date me on the proposals. I have seen the info on the FROGS website. These
> dont include two things I think would be great for the park and it would
> be interesting to see what sort of comments come back> > 1) Skate board
> park> 2) Trim/Fitness Trail> > Is there a scheduled meeting of FROGs in
> the near future?> > Regards> > Chris> (Coronation Road)> > > Chris Whale>
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From: Caroline Rigg Date: Jul 22 12:17 UTC Short link

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE - spare us the noise and ugliness of a skate board park in
beautiful Greville Smyth Park!

I could just about stomach a properly confined BMX track or a sensitively
designed Trim Trail (as long as it was designed so as not to a) interfere too
much with other legitimate park-users, particulalrly dog walkers (who I would
contend are the main users of the park, being there every day in all seasons
and weather) or b) disturb what meagre wildlife remains, this having already
been pushed out to the park perimeter as it is).

But a skate board park would just about spell the end of any quiet and peaceful
enjoyment we have left in this lovely place!

Is it really such a hardship to confine skate boards to Dame Emily Playpark?!
    

From: diane jones Date: Jul 22 14:47 UTC Short link

Obviously what we need is more parkland to fit in all the different totally
legitimate uses! But failing that, it is particularly difficult when activities
/ amenities actually conflict. Skateboard areas do disturb people, dogs and
wildlife, and tend to dominate the atmosphere of a place. I find Greville
Smythe a suprisingly peaceful place considering it's close proximity to the
disasterous 1960's road-building, and value this aspect.

But it is very important to be inclusive, particularly regarding young people
who can just be seen as disruptive.  Some youngsters undeniably like noise and
movement in a way that older people don't, and younger children find
intimidating. So any facilities that increase noise and movement should take
this into account. But could youth provision also be more imaginative? Not all
young people want to just hurl themselves into space.  Could some activities be
specifically for that age group, but catering for a wider range - especially
girls (who tend to get overlooked as they are generally not seen as a "problem"
as much as boys - all the youth provision like skateboards, bmx and football
are overwelmingly more boy than girl activities). What would younger people
themselves chose?
    

From: George Ferguson Date: Jul 22 18:26 UTC Short link

There is a conflict between relatively peaceful green park and concrete
skateboard park. We need both but great care in choosing where skateboarding
goes - not necessarily in parks. Here is a great one in Malmo  basically in
a car park. That desert of wasted space under the flyover could be good.

All the best  George


> From: diane jones <josou@blueyonder.co.uk>
> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:48:07 +1200 (NZST)
> To: Greater Bedminster Neighbourhood Forum
> <bemmy-forum@forums.e-democracy.org>
> Subject: Re: [GB-Forum] Greville Smyth Park
>
> Obviously what we need is more parkland to fit in all the different totally
> legitimate uses! But failing that, it is particularly difficult when
> activities / amenities actually conflict. Skateboard areas do disturb people,
> dogs and wildlife, and tend to dominate the atmosphere of a place. I find
> Greville Smythe a suprisingly peaceful place considering it's close proximity
> to the disasterous 1960's road-building, and value this aspect.
>
> But it is very important to be inclusive, particularly regarding young people
> who can just be seen as disruptive.  Some youngsters undeniably like noise
and
> movement in a way that older people don't, and younger children find
> intimidating. So any facilities that increase noise and movement should take
> this into account. But could youth provision also be more imaginative? Not
all
> young people want to just hurl themselves into space.  Could some activities
> be specifically for that age group, but catering for a wider range -
> especially girls (who tend to get overlooked as they are generally not seen
as
    

> a "problem" as much as boys - all the youth provision like skateboards, bmx
> and football are overwelmingly more boy than girl activities). What would
> younger people themselves chose?
>
>
> diane jones
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From: Ben barker Date: Jul 23 09:08 UTC Short link

Hi,

Around about October and November Bristol Parks will be conducting
discussions on the 'Area Green Space Plan' for the general Bedminster area.
They are doing Brislington at the moment.

This plan will underpin the council's investment strategy for the next 20
years.   But, that doesn't mean there will be lots of money to spend.   Even
if groups raise their own money from the lottery etc, I think the council
will not be too keen to take over the maintenance costs of too many sites.
That's a mistake that they've made in the past.

My guess would be that, in the forseeable future (5 years?), the best we can
expect is one decent skateboard etc area in Bedminster.   We don't have that
now.   George Ferguson is right that it doesn't have to go into a park, but
I can't think of any available non-park site in Bedminster.   Can you?
That leaves, it seems to me, three possible locations:
1.   Greville Smyth Park.   There might be space over by the flyover, but at
the moment the proposal seems to be linked with a wildlife area.   I don't
see how that would work.
2.   Dame Emily Park.   There is already a skateboard area, the oldest in
Bristol, but it is in poor repair.
3.   Victoria Park.   The biggest of the three parks.   I think its new
development plan includes quite a lot of play equipment, but I'm not sure
about a wheels area.   Does anybody know?

Of course, there are other green spaces including St John's Churchyard,
South Street Park and Gores Marsh Park, but none of these seem particularly
suitable and locals have not requested a bike and skateboard area.   In
fact, I'm sure they would resist it.

This will be an interesting discussion once the Area Green Space Planning
process gets under way.

Cheers,   Ben.
    

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From: "George Ferguson" <gferguson@afm-architects.co.uk>
To: "diane jones" <josou@blueyonder.co.uk>; "Greater Bedminster
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Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [GB-Forum] Greville Smyth Park


> There is a conflict between relatively peaceful green park and concrete
> skateboard park. We need both but great care in choosing where
> skateboarding
> goes - not necessarily in parks. Here is a great one in Malmo  basically
> in
> a car park. That desert of wasted space under the flyover could be good.
>
> All the best  George
>
>
>> From: diane jones <josou@blueyonder.co.uk>
>> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:48:07 +1200 (NZST)
>> To: Greater Bedminster Neighbourhood Forum
>> <bemmy-forum@forums.e-democracy.org>
>> Subject: Re: [GB-Forum] Greville Smyth Park
>>
>> Obviously what we need is more parkland to fit in all the different
>> totally
>> legitimate uses! But failing that, it is particularly difficult when
>> activities / amenities actually conflict. Skateboard areas do disturb
>> people,
>> dogs and wildlife, and tend to dominate the atmosphere of a place. I find
>> Greville Smythe a suprisingly peaceful place considering it's close
>> proximity
>> to the disasterous 1960's road-building, and value this aspect.
>>
>> But it is very important to be inclusive, particularly regarding young
>> people
>> who can just be seen as disruptive.  Some youngsters undeniably like
>> noise and
>> movement in a way that older people don't, and younger children find
>> intimidating. So any facilities that increase noise and movement should
>> take
>> this into account. But could youth provision also be more imaginative?
>> Not all
>> young people want to just hurl themselves into space.  Could some
>> activities
>> be specifically for that age group, but catering for a wider range -
>> especially girls (who tend to get overlooked as they are generally not
>> seen as
>> a "problem" as much as boys - all the youth provision like skateboards,
>> bmx
>> and football are overwelmingly more boy than girl activities). What would
>> younger people themselves chose?
>>
>>
>> diane jones
>>
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