This Trump administration amateurish approach to diplomacy is a threat to US
national security. Trump's surrogates/aides/advisers are dealing with very well
trained and professional Russian diplomats/spies. Putin is playing the Trump
administration and I hope somebody in the Trump administration puts a stop to
all of this dangerous 'diplomacy'.
David Frenkel

Or were some of Trump's cabinet appointments being vetted by Putin?

Mike Schoenberg

St. Paul, MN

On 3/2/2017 8:45 PM, David Frenkel wrote:
> This Trump administration amateurish approach to diplomacy is a threat to US
national security. Trump's surrogates/aides/advisers are dealing with very well
trained and professional Russian diplomats/spies. Putin is playing the Trump
administration and I hope somebody in the Trump administration puts a stop to
all of this dangerous 'diplomacy'.
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The Russian Ambassador is a grizzled cold war spy who knows how to manipulate
and use people not too mention US intelligence agencies track the Russian
ambassador like a hawk. To be naive to think Trump's people can invite him
over just for coffee like any other ambassador as I said earlier is naive and
dangerous to US national security.
David Frenkel

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Or were some of Trump's cabinet appointments being vetted by Putin?

Mike Schoenberg

St. Paul, MN

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Friday's Star Tribune @ p. A5 has a 6 column 1/4th page article on the
Ambassador. David's grizzles cold war spy seems over blown. Recommend reading
the article before jumping to conclusions.

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> On Mar 3, 2017, at 7:47 AM, David Frenkel <<email obscured>> wrote:
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> The Russian Ambassador is a grizzled cold war spy who knows how to manipulate
and use people not too mention US intelligence agencies track the Russian
ambassador like a hawk. To be naive to think Trump's people can invite him
over just for coffee like any other ambassador as I said earlier is naive and
dangerous to US national security.

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Democrats are starting to sound like modern Joe McCarthys.
(http://tinyurl.com/zjnl4u4)

Interesting example for the young folks - can learn about literal McCarthyism,
as opposed to some metaphorical version.

Yes, "interesting, very interesting” as the old Artie Johnson Laugh In schtick
went; the NY Post is certainly known for it.

Joe McCarthy and Donald Trump shared the same lawyer, Roy Cohn, so the McCarthy
label still works better for the Trump-Pence folks, the litigant administration
if you like, who will operate that way for the next four years. Trying to tar
Democrats with that particular brush doesn’t really work as the Republicans in
Congress are every bit as worried about political connections to the Russian
kleptocracy.

> On Mar 3, 2017, at 9:59 AM, John Gaylord <<email obscured>> wrote:
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> Democrats are starting to sound like modern Joe McCarthys.
(http://tinyurl.com/zjnl4u4 <http://tinyurl.com/zjnl4u4>
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> Interesting example for the young folks - can learn about literal
McCarthyism, as opposed to some metaphorical version.

John Gaylord suggests: "Democrats are starting to sound like modern Joe
McCarthys."

I have gone over much of this months ago:

http://southsidepride.com/lock-him-up/
http://www.theragblog.com/ed-felien-putins-puppet-and-the-really-big-deal/

There are disturbing facts that raise important questions.

We know that Afghanistan produces 95% of the world's opium crop. It's
worth more than $3 billion a year. The Taliban had outlawed opium
production. We overthrew the Taliban government with the direct support of
the Opium Warlords. The CIA has been involved in the opium/heroin trade
since they made the deal with the Mafia to release Lucky Luciano from
prison in return for Sicilian Mafia support for the Allied invasion of
Sicily in 1943. Opium in Afghanistan moves to Pakistan where it is made
into heroin, then back through Afghanistan to Turkmenistan. Russia
controls Turkmenistan in the same manner that the U S controls Afghanistan.

There are serious questions that a Congressional Investigation might
answer. How deeply involved is the CIA in the drug trade in Afghanistan?
Is the struggle between Trump and the CIA a drug deal gone wrong, where an
outsider (the President) decided to cut himself in on a drug deal?

Further, we know the Russians are planning to build a Trans Afghan pipeline
to move natural gas from Turkmenistan to customers in Pakistan and India.
We know this pipeline will conflict with the Iranian pipeline. We know
Trump has borrowed at least $50 million from the Russian Oligarchs for his
Soho hotel. We know that the Oligarchs are connected to Gazprom and the
Trans Afghan Pipeline. We know Tillerson, Trump's Secretary of State, has
built Russian pipelines for Exxon. We know McMaster, the National Security
Advisor, was stationed in Kabul for the Army to investigate corruption--let
us assume he had sense enough to appreciate the drug trade and the
interdependence of the CIA and Opium Warlords and the Russians.

The most important question to be answered in an investigation would be,
"Has Trump compromised American security by supporting Russian interests
against the Iranians? Tearing up the Nuclear Treaty with Iran would stop
Iran from being able to export 600,000 gallons of oil a day. Did Trump
make a deal with Russia to support their interests while putting the U S at
risk of war with Iran?"

These are serious and disturbing questions. Only an exhaustive
Congressional Investigation could begin to find answers.

Ed Felien

More Trump advisers disclose meetings with Russia's ambassador (CNN.com)

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