From:
Andrew Groom
Date:
Oct 30 23:41 UTC
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On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 12:28 +1300, Tom Taylor wrote:
> One thing that has emerged during our campaign is that Fairfax media have
> kept the lid on it. I have written letters, emailed and phoned reporters at
> several of the local papers and so have several others who are against it.
> Not a whisper in any of the papers - one of the downsides of a city where
> all those who count know each other.
So, Fairfax own the Press and it looks like APN News and Media
(http://www.apn.com.au/newzealand.html) own the Star. It would seem that
all of our mainstream print media is Australian-owned and controlled -
yippee ! :-) Are there any locally-owned options ?
From:
Paula Lambert
Date:
Oct 31 00:14 UTC
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the first rule of Hypocrisy101 is ... *the debate is framed by the media,
and the media-savvy.
*Thanks to media studies in schools most young people know that, if they
were listening to that bit in class.
Exactly the same thing happens with cannabis law reform, no matter how
rational the argument.
The constructive thing I can contribute is that if you dumb your concerns
right down and tell the media you're going to do some sort of *controversial
stunt*, it significantly increases the likelihood they'll take some notice..
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:41 PM, andrew <andrew@reurbanise.co.nz> wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 12:28 +1300, Tom Taylor wrote:
> > One thing that has emerged during our campaign is that Fairfax media have
> > kept the lid on it. I have written letters, emailed and phoned reporters
> at
> > several of the local papers and so have several others who are against
> it.
> > Not a whisper in any of the papers - one of the downsides of a city where
> > all those who count know each other.
>
> So, Fairfax own the Press and it looks like APN News and Media
> (http://www.apn.com.au/newzealand.html) own the Star. It would seem that
> all of our mainstream print media is Australian-owned and controlled -
> yippee ! :-) Are there any locally-owned options ?
>
>
> Andrew Groom
> Bryndwr, Christchurch
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From:
John Veitch
Date:
Oct 31 00:58 UTC
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For many years I found the local newspapers unreadable.
I still get most of my information online, from sources I trust,
generally from social networks.
Currently I am a subscriber to the press, but I seldom read much of it.
If democracy in NZ is to survive, people have to be informed in a
reliable way.
In NZ as overseas the media has become the tool for misdirection of
public attention and disinformation.
We know where that direction takes us, look at the USA.
This forum is evidence that some of us understand the need for
information that serves the public good.
From:
Phil Ross
Date:
Oct 31 11:37 UTC
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Hear hear John!
The question of reliability of the press is crucial for any society. I'm a
bit torn about the issue of media ownership. Everyone has a right to speak
and therefore should have access. That doesn't happen well in the printed
media. They all have target audiences or constituencies.
I don't think the internet is yet mature enough to offer a real alternative.
Too many yammering voices with little to say. As Tom Lehrer once opined "
if they have so much trouble communicating the least they could do is to
shut up".
Phil Ross
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Subject: Re: [Canterbury Issues] Canterbury media ownership
> For many years I found the local newspapers unreadable.
>
> I still get most of my information online, from sources I trust,
> generally from social networks.
> Currently I am a subscriber to the press, but I seldom read much of it.
>
> If democracy in NZ is to survive, people have to be informed in a
> reliable way.
> In NZ as overseas the media has become the tool for misdirection of
> public attention and disinformation.
>
> We know where that direction takes us, look at the USA.
> This forum is evidence that some of us understand the need for
> information that serves the public good.
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> John Veitch
> Papanui, Christchurch
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