Council vote Monday to allow commercial type signs in residential n...
From:
John Kysylyczyn
Date:
May 21 02:58 UTC
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Well it appears that several citizens spoke to council members on this issue
before the vote was taken tonight. In response, major changes were made to the
proposal.
In a 3-1 vote, with Klausing voting NO, the rest of the council passed the law
allowing banners, but only on streetlights and not "other objects", and
prohibited their placement in residential areas of the city. Thank you for
sticking up for residents.
Klausing voted NO, claiming that he thought in the future that if the city put
streetlights in residential neighborhoods, his vision is for citizens to have
banners hanging on their streetlights that had some message on them that was
specifically geared to their neighborhood.
Frankly, this is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of. I certainly
wouldn't want money diverted from anything else to make this happen. But on
the other hand, if we had banners hanging from streetlights in residential
neighborhoods, I might be tempted to suggest the following slogans.
"Yup, the pathway below this banner is used by 4 people a day and only cost
taxpayers $3,000,000."
"This brown monument post on Dale Street south of B which is obstructing your
vision when trying to turn onto a busy street, was approved by city staff."
"Yes our parks system has $5,000,000 in backlogged repairs, but we still had
the money to pay for our city manager's Rotary Club dues for several years."
"Did you know that our city manager got a 3% raise his second day on the job?"
To close, I talked to the director of the Roseville Visitors Association after
the council vote. She is the one who requested this law change. She had no
problem with what was passed in the end because this is all she asked for.
John M. Kysylyczyn
K Solutions LLC, owner
3083 Victoria Street
Roseville, MN 55113
email: <email obscured>
home office: (651) 484-1384
www.ksolutionsllc.com
Mayor of Roseville, MN 2000-2004
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Roe [mailto:dan.roe@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 1:30 PM
To: Roseville Issues Forum
Subject: Re: [RIF] Council vote Monday to allow commercial type signs in
residential n...
Let me clear up some fuzzy information about what is proposed:
This is NOT an ordinance to put commercial signs in residential areas.
It IS an ordinance to allow, IF EACH INDIVIDUAL CASE IS APPROVED BY THE CITY
COUNCIL, signs to be located on CITY-OWNED light poles, standards (another word
for light poles), and "other objects" (if that language stays in).
The signs that would be allowed CANNOT promote any private business. The
ordinance specifies that they must be ONLY signs that promote the city itself
or city events.
Currently, the city does not, according to a map in our packet tonight, own any
light poles/standards along strictly residential streets. They are primarily
around Rosedale, and along Larpenteur near Lexington.
The OVERWHELMING majority of light poles in the city (nearly all) are owned by
other entities, such as Ramsey County or Xcel energy. The present sign
ordinance DOES NOT currently allow signs on those light poles/standards, and
the proposed change to the ordinance DOES NOT change that.
The controversy about this proposed ordinance change seems to me to be the
making of a mountain out of a molehill.
Dan Roe
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