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Headington's subway (underpass) From: Marie Vickers Date: Jul 25 18:51 UTC Short link

I very rarely use the underpass.  I did so today to test whether I might use it
more in future.  I wouldn't!  Four of the lights do not work.  It is dingy and,
particularly on a hot day, smells unpleasant.  I would be glad to use the
proposed zebra crossing near to Osler Road.

As I walked through Headington towards the underpass I was shocked to see how
many obstructions there are on the pavements.  A multiplicy of green wheelie
bins, City Council recycling bins (in addition to the regular black rubbish
bins.)  However, I was most concerned to find that a large rectangular tin box
has been set into the pavement next to the public telephones.  This closes off
the pavement between the phone booths and the step up to the area where there
are tables and chairs.

I think that anyone with a visual impairment, or in a wheelchair, or pushing a
pram or double buggy would have great difficulty in negotiating their way
through Headington between Old High Street and Osler Road.  Can anything be
done about these obstructions?

Marie Vickers


--- On Thu, 24/7/08, David Rundle <david.rundle@history.ox.ac.uk> wrote:

> From: David Rundle <david.rundle@history.ox.ac.uk>
> Subject: Re: [HMNF] Headington's subway (underpass)
> To: "Hilary Rollin" <hrollin@brookes.ac.uk>, "Kate and Tony"
<tandk@appleinter.net>
> Cc: "Mike Ratcliffe" <mratcliffe@brookes.ac.uk>, "Headington & Marston
Neighbourhood Forum" <oxford-hm@forums.e-democracy.org>
> Date: Thursday, 24 July, 2008, 10:11 AM
> I've been interested to read this thread, as Ruth
> Wilkinson and myself are
> campaigning to keep the underpass -- and, yes, it was much
> easier when we
> could call it a subway! The County has backed off from a
> firm decision,
> saying they would investigate it further -- I'll be
> interested to see how
> and when they plan to do that. Their proposal is to replace
> it with a
> crossing -- but, it appears to me, one so close to the main
> cross-roads that
> it would be likely to exacerbate problems.
>
> In the meantime, I think it's important we make sure
> the underpass is cared
> for and a good state. There were complaints recently about
> many of the
> lights being out in the underpass: I got the County
> officers onto that and
> it is -- I hope -- sorted. It needs to be cleaned up and
> the City officers
> appreciate the issue. As you know, Low-Carbon Headington is
> keen that
> activities like street-parties occur in 20th September for
> Car-Free Day and
> one of things I hoping will happen is a good clean-up ahead
> of that Saturday
> and a small party around the underpass -- though nothing as
> grand as when
> the murals were opened in 2002!
>
> David
>
> David Rundle
> City Councillor (LibDem), Headington Ward
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hilary Rollin"
> <hrollin@brookes.ac.uk>
> To: "Kate and Tony" <tandk@appleinter.net>
> Cc: "Mike Ratcliffe"
> <mratcliffe@brookes.ac.uk>; "Headington &
> Marston
> Neighbourhood Forum"
> <oxford-hm@forums.e-democracy.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [HMNF] Headington's subway (underpass)
>
>
> > Much of this has been rehearsed before, but what about
> the elderly, who
> > may not want to have to dash across at the lights or
> even go as far as
> > the lights? And children of an age such as they can
> walk unaccompanied
> > provided they cross the road via the subway?  Besides,
> crossing at the
> > lights is at the whim of the motorist, and quite a few
> of them jump the
> > lights. There have been nasty accidents due to this,
> so using the lights
> > is not a valid alternative for some age groups.
> > Also, I may be wrong, but wouldn't the bike racks
> be lost? There are
> > too few of these as it is.
> >
> >
> >
> > Kate and Tony wrote:
> >> The times I have not used the subway are (a) when
> there is very little
> >> traffic about (rare) and (b) when the traffic is
> jammed stationary (often
> >> at
> >> present, but as Mike says maybe less often if the
> lights and other
> >> measures
> >> improved traffic flow)
> >> NB. With the subway would go the railings for
> displays and the site for
> >> the
> >> community notice boards.
> >> Tony
> >>
> >>
> >> On 23/7/08 12:06, "Mike Ratcliffe"
> <mratcliffe@brookes.ac.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> I use the subway when shepherding small
> people, who are always excited
> >>> by the
> >>> prospect of going through it.
> >>>
> >>> It's particularly helpful as we normally
> don't have enough time to cross
> >>> two
> >>> roads in the alloted pedestrian filter time
> (so we can't get from
> >>> Budgens to
> >>> Chancellors), so we use the subway to cross
> London Road and the lights
> >>> to
> >>> cross Windmill Rd or Old High St.
> >>>
> >>> However, it's utility is seriously in
> question when it's so close to the
> >>> lights.  What might be helpful for it's
> survival is that the retiming of
> >>> the
> >>> lights does appear to have had a impact on the
> queues heading towards
> >>> the
> >>> ring-road so the widening might be less of a
> necessity.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>>
> >>> (there's also the matter of the trees that
> would have to come down, but
> >>> I fear
> >>> to raise that here)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mike Ratcliffe
> >>> Highfield, Headington
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> >>
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