Headington's subway (underpass)
From:
David Rundle
Date:
Jul 24 09:11 UTC
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I've been interested to read this thread, as Ruth Wilkinson and myself are
campaigning to keep the underpass -- and, yes, it was much easier when we
could call it a subway! The County has backed off from a firm decision,
saying they would investigate it further -- I'll be interested to see how
and when they plan to do that. Their proposal is to replace it with a
crossing -- but, it appears to me, one so close to the main cross-roads that
it would be likely to exacerbate problems.
In the meantime, I think it's important we make sure the underpass is cared
for and a good state. There were complaints recently about many of the
lights being out in the underpass: I got the County officers onto that and
it is -- I hope -- sorted. It needs to be cleaned up and the City officers
appreciate the issue. As you know, Low-Carbon Headington is keen that
activities like street-parties occur in 20th September for Car-Free Day and
one of things I hoping will happen is a good clean-up ahead of that Saturday
and a small party around the underpass -- though nothing as grand as when
the murals were opened in 2002!
David
David Rundle
City Councillor (LibDem), Headington Ward
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hilary Rollin" <hrollin@brookes.ac.uk>
To: "Kate and Tony" <tandk@appleinter.net>
Cc: "Mike Ratcliffe" <mratcliffe@brookes.ac.uk>; "Headington & Marston
Neighbourhood Forum" <oxford-hm@forums.e-democracy.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: [HMNF] Headington's subway (underpass)
> Much of this has been rehearsed before, but what about the elderly, who
> may not want to have to dash across at the lights or even go as far as
> the lights? And children of an age such as they can walk unaccompanied
> provided they cross the road via the subway? Besides, crossing at the
> lights is at the whim of the motorist, and quite a few of them jump the
> lights. There have been nasty accidents due to this, so using the lights
> is not a valid alternative for some age groups.
> Also, I may be wrong, but wouldn't the bike racks be lost? There are
> too few of these as it is.
>
>
>
> Kate and Tony wrote:
>> The times I have not used the subway are (a) when there is very little
>> traffic about (rare) and (b) when the traffic is jammed stationary (often
>> at
>> present, but as Mike says maybe less often if the lights and other
>> measures
>> improved traffic flow)
>> NB. With the subway would go the railings for displays and the site for
>> the
>> community notice boards.
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> On 23/7/08 12:06, "Mike Ratcliffe" <mratcliffe@brookes.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I use the subway when shepherding small people, who are always excited
>>> by the
>>> prospect of going through it.
>>>
>>> It's particularly helpful as we normally don't have enough time to cross
>>> two
>>> roads in the alloted pedestrian filter time (so we can't get from
>>> Budgens to
>>> Chancellors), so we use the subway to cross London Road and the lights
>>> to
>>> cross Windmill Rd or Old High St.
>>>
>>> However, it's utility is seriously in question when it's so close to the
>>> lights. What might be helpful for it's survival is that the retiming of
>>> the
>>> lights does appear to have had a impact on the queues heading towards
>>> the
>>> ring-road so the widening might be less of a necessity.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> (there's also the matter of the trees that would have to come down, but
>>> I fear
>>> to raise that here)
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike Ratcliffe
>>> Highfield, Headington
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