Joyce Edmond-Smith <jedmondsmith@yahoo.co.uk>
08/04/2008 12:41
To: Max Cooter <max@techworld.com>, "BH@forums"
<bh@forums.e-democracy.org>
cc:
Subject: Re: [BH-Issues] London Road Tesco Proposal
Lets be clear - Tesco's would have to put in a planning application. This
would be
decided by the Planning Committee (not the Council Leader) and would have
to be dealt
with under planning legislation. Once an application is in people can
approve or object
(this is the opportunity to develop opposition - not by petitions -
objections are much
stronger when written individually and based on planning issues). The
development
control officer will make a recommendation to the planning committee and
the Planning
Committee will decide to accept the recommendation or not . Any decision
will be
expected to be made on the basis of planning issues :- existing Local
Development Plan,
traffic considerations, other planning policies , objections etc. If an
application is
refused the application has the right to appeal (an often not known
injustice of the
planning system is that objectors have no right of appeal) . Should the
appeal be
upheld the local authority usually has to meet the costs which can heavy -
Care will be
taken therefore that decisions meet with planning guidelines.
--- Max Cooter <max@techworld.com> wrote:
> This was reported in the Argus a few weeks ago.
>
> I know that Tesco seem to be unstoppable in their bid for world
> domination but I wonder whether they will have their own way on this
> one. For a start, the new council leader, Mary Mears, might have a few
> things to say about any plans that affect the financial viability of her
> two market stalls. But also, this council and the previous
> administration have been looking at ways to reduce traffic coming into
> central Brighton, a massive supermarket on the main artery into town
> would immediately add another level of congestion.
>
> In addition, there are several supermarkets in the area already:
> Sainsbury's, Somerfield, Iceland, the new Aldi and the Lewes Road Co-op
> not too far away. How would it regenerate the area to put one building
> to use while forcing the closure of two, three or four more? And that's
> not counting the small traders who would be put out of business. They'd
> also need to develop well beyond the Co-op store itself - probably
> taking over the bike shop that stands where AA Baker did, the old chapel
> and the pound shop that's there.
>
> Personally, I like Tony C's suggestion below - I certainly feel that the
> Open Market should be a thriving area not the almost shameful secret
> that it is. I'm sure that the council would prefer a tenant other than
> Tesco - my bet is that they'd love John Lewis to come to Brighton - but
> we all know that Tesco have deep pockets and powerful lawyers so it
> wouldn't astonish me to see them winning in the end.
>
>
>
> Tony Cook wrote:
> > The news has been confirmed by The Brighton Society.
> >
> > http://www.brighton-society.org.uk/
> >
> > Quote:
> >
> > The Co-op department store has been earmarked for a Tesco superstore
> >
> > Will this mean demolition and rebuilding with a large car park, or
> > will the present building be converted? It is hard to imagine that
> > Tesco would be content with the tiny Co-op car park on the site of
> > Oxford Court. Indeed St James Investments, the developer, has said
> > that sufficient car parking would be needed to make the area (I think
> > they mean a Tesco superstore) financially viable.
> >
> > How many spaces is 'sufficient' car parking? How will London Road,
> > already congested, cope with the extra traffic which would be
> > generated?
> >
> > The developer could make a real contribution to the area by helping
> > the Open Market to carry out its own planned regeneration scheme.
> >
> > The Brighton Society looks forward to visiting the website (which will
> > go live in April or May) when a public exhibition will be held. We
> > look forward to participating in "an open and honest public
> > consultation, which helps guide proposals for the area", and we hope
> > will provide a genuine opportunity to influence those proposals.
> >
> > Unquote.
> >
> > Personally I would knock everything down (both sides of London Road,
> > including the Co-op and Open Market), dig up the road and build a
> > large underground 'terminus' carpark. Above ground I would rebuild the
> > market, extending the concept to include every conceivable space and
> > resource necessary to draw in small businesses - retail, goumet,
> > services, workshops, wi-fi etc. Above the commercial tier, and in and
> > around inner courtyards, I'd locate low-cost, high-density residential
> > space including meeting space, dental and medical practices and
> > educational space suitable for all age groups. I'd restrict motorised
> > transport within the bounds of this village to milk floats. St Peter's
> > to the sea-front would then be car free, maybe serviced by trams, the
> > Steine river brought to the surface and reconfigured as a canal, oh
> > and more trees please.
> >
> > Tony C
> >
> > Tony Cook
> >
> > Info about Tony Cook: http://forums.e-democracy.org/contacts/tonycook
> >
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> Max Cooter
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