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IRV From: Jack Ferman Date: May 10 04:17 UTC Short link
I not 5 minutes ago visited the Mpls Ordinances web page and looked up
Ch 167 in Title 8.5, here is what is there:
CHAPTER 167. RESERVED*
__________ *Editor's note: Ord. No. 2001-Or-057, § 1, adopted April 20, 2001, repealed Ch. 167, §§ 167.10--167.50, which pertained to campaign contribution limitations. See the Code Comparative Table. __________ 167.10--167.50. Reserved. So much for IRV rules and Procedures. Jack Ferman Kingfield Neighborhood <email obscured> ***** On May 9, 2008, at 8:33 AM, Anissa Hollingshead wrote: > On April 18th the Council did enact an ordinance AND issue the RFP. > From the Official Proceedings: > The ELECTIONS Committee submitted the following reports: > ELECTIONS - Your Committee, to whom was referred an ordinance > amending Title 8.5 of the Minneapolis Code of Ordinances relating to > Elections, by adding a new Chapter 167 relating to Municipal > Elections: Rules of Conduct, establishing rules for counting ranked > choice voting elections, now recommends that said ordinance be given > its second reading for amendment and passage. > Adopted 4/18/2008. Yeas, 9; Nays, 4 as follows: > Yeas - Remington, Benson, Hodges, Samuels, Gordon, Ostrow, Schiff, > Lilligren, Glidden. > Nays - Goodman, Hofstede, Colvin Roy, Johnson. > > The full ordinance follows, and is several pages. The proceedings > are available on the city's website, and the link to that meeting > follows: http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/council/archives/proceedings/2008/20080418-proceedings.pdf > Anissa Hollingshead > > Hawthorne > > > On 5/8/08, John Ferman <<email obscured>> wrote: Rules and > procedures that are not in Ordinances are not law and are > not binding. In order for the RFP to be definitive and binding, that > document must be specifically cited in Ordinances. There is no such > citation; therefore, the ElectionsEquipRFP.pdf is not law and is not > binding. Hence, the election judges may determine how to count and > assess the Intent of the Voter as State law requires. Here is a > question for those with expert knowledge of election law. Suppose the > first choice on 5,000 ballots is to a person who is eliminated on the > first round. Suppose 1/2 of those ballots 'bullet' vote for the > dropped candidate, 1/3 of theose ballots leave all choices from #2 and > higher blank. Suppose the remaining 1/6 of those ballots have a 2nd > choice for either of the 2 leading candidates. Since 5/6 of 5,000 > ballots are now invalid, they must be discarded. Suppose the election > was for 5 offices and 7 referendem items - the discarded ballots can > be counted in those 5 races and 7 issues. The Rules and Procedures > Ordinances had better be extremely explicit and cover every imaginable > and unimaginable contingency; else you have heard that old refrain - > see ya in court. > > > On May 8, 2008, at 10:32 AM, Jeanne Massey wrote: > > > Jack Ferman: > > Last week in an email from CC Glidden readers were directed to the > > Mpls Ordinances section of the Mpls web pages to read about the next > > election voting procedures. Chapter 2 of Ordinances contains two > short > > paragraphs: Sec 5A Conduct of Elections and Sec 5B Voting Method. > > Neither section details the ballot counting precedures > > > > Me: > > The detailed rules and procedures for conducting Minneapolis' IRV > > elections > > were adopted by the Minneapolis City Council on April 18th. They > are > > included in the city's RFP for voting equipment. > > > > See full RFP and Rules at: > > http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/procurement/ElectionsEquipRFP.pdf > > > > Jeanne Massey > > Kingfield > > FairVote Minnesota > > > > > > >