Supreme Court Ruling on the 2nd Ammendment
From:
Leslie Hittner
Date:
Jun 30 22:38 UTC
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Not quite, Tim. I believe I only said that a gun on a citizen's hip would not
result in more courtesy.
With respect to crime, I did not make a correlation between crime and guns. The
basic question remains, "... how to control access to guns in order to make our
society safer and to do so without violating a fundamental constitutional
right." Basically, we want to keep guns from the criminal element - some of
whom have not been identified as such at the time they make the purchase - and
"good" citizens.
That's not an easy question to answer. This last supreme court ruling is not an
answer. I believe it is a rather extreme position that frames the logical
playing field for the answer. The answer - if indeed it resolves - will likely
be arrived at in case law over the next decade or so.
-Leslie Hittner
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Slade
To: Steve Kranz
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Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 15:14
Subject: Re: [Winona] Supreme Court Ruling on the 2nd Ammendment
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newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/steve_chapman/2008/06/more-guns-more.html
The above is a Chicago Trib columnist named Steve Chapman on the probable
result of the decision.
in brief, he doesn't agree with Les. The trend will appear in a couple
years.
On Jun 28, 2008, at 3:08 PM, Steve Kranz wrote:
[Winona Online Democracy]
I'd be curious to know what have been peoples' experience in Winona since
the Conceal and Carry law went into effect a few years ago? Has anyone had any
experiences in which they felt that the change in law had an impact on them in
our community.
Also, when I was on the school board, we had that controversy regarding
whether the board should modify the "no guns" policy to allow for Saturday gun
safety training. Since I've been gone a couple of years, has there been any
further discussion of that issue? Or has there any impact since the school
board decided not to allow the guns in schools for the training?
Steve Kranz
2008/6/28 Leslie Hittner <<email obscured>>:
[Winona Online Democracy]
Robert,
Until you can show me an effective way to ensure that people don't kill,
it will be necessary to control their access to guns and other weapons. We
really can't enforce bans on people - until after the nasty deeds have been
done. The argument is not whether guns kill or people kill. The argument is how
to control access to guns in order to make our society safer and to do so
without violating a fundamental constitutional right. The answer to that
question is far from settled. Perhaps it never will be.
A gun on the hip of a citizen doesn't promote courtesy. It demands
courtesy - courtesy that is granted out of fear. That sounds like the ultimate
tool of a bully. How is that good?
-Leslie Hittner
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert P Kaldunski
To: <email obscured>
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 13:12
Subject: [Winona] Supreme Court Ruling on the 2nd Ammendment
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It's about time. people need to understand that Guns don't kill,
people kill and a gun in the home is a deturant to many crimes and a gun on the
hip of a citizen promotes courtesy. Check ou the history of the early 1900's.
Bob K
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