From:
Dave Thune
Date:
Apr 06 01:59 UTC
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Sorry John, Phylis Kahn didn't just dream this up, it was brought to her by
some of the various lobbyists around here shilling for the big boys out
east. Kahn you remember is the rep who was deathly opposed to a small high
school having a football field near her house - because of the noise and
inconvenience.
If you re-read, you'll see that I have nothing against republicans. I
believe in a multi-party system. I'm talking about lobbyists.
The great evil - and this goes waaaay beyond any bar closing time - is the
monied special interests hiring highly paid lobbyists to buy the votes of
congress. And I repeat - this is why we have dead young soldiers and iraqi
families, ceo's paid multi-million dollar bonuses as they cut employee
salaries, etc, etc. They are the shameful reason this country is going
down the toilet.
I object to sacrificing the peace and quiet of our neighborhoods for these
traiterous, anti-american parasites.
Okay - shoulder is great - blood pressure now up.
dave
ward 2 st. paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Krenik" <<email obscured>>
To: "St. Paul Issues Forum" <<email obscured>>
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: [SPIF] barrs - long (sorry)
> Dave,
>
> Good to hear from you and I hope your back is better!
>
> Your comment, "the particular lobbyists we'll have in town that week are
> the ones who have initiated this whole discussion," is interesting.
>
> The St. Paul Pioneer Press reported the following today, "The idea was
> introduced at the Legislature last week by Rep. Phyllis Kahn,
> DFL-Minneapolis, who put forth a measure to allow bars within a 10-mile
> radius of the Xcel Energy Center to remain open until 4 a.m. from Aug. 29
> through Sept. 8. The convention is slated for Sept. 1-4 at the center."
>
> Hardly is Phyllis Kahn of all people going to go out of her way for some
> Republican lobbyists. Also Mayor Chris Coleman supports this, as well as
> the Minneapolis City Council (9-3). In addition, Kathy Lantry, Dan
> Bostrom and Pat Harris voted against the resolution that you voted for
> last Wednesday.
>
> Additionally your statement in your post, "And of course these are the
> lobbyists who brought us an illegal and tragic war, a recession, polluted
> water, expensive drugs, and even the moralists who preach family values
> but play "outside the box" themselves. They are enough to make me queasy
> without a snootful..." speaks volumes of your dislike for Republicans.
> Just like your comments about puking Republican lobbyists. As a friend of
> mine who lives out of state and who will be coming to the RNC convention,
> feels that your comments are very biased towards Republicans. He also
> thought Minneapolis would have been a better place to hold this
> convention, as they seem more welcoming.
>
> Dave when you paint ALL Republicans with the SAME brush you are being very
> discriminatory. One has to wonder if you would be making such a fuss if
> the DNC were coming to town instead of the RNC. Your comments are
> shocking from an elected official and does nothing to show that St. Paul
> is a welcoming place for all people.
>
> Friday was the anniversary of Dr. King’s death. Dr. King fought so that
> ALL people would be treated equally. Your constant negative comments
> against the Republicans are no different than saying negative comments
> against another person because of their race.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> John Krenik
> Highland Park, St. Paul, Minnesota
>
> John Krenik
> Highland Park, St. Paul, Minnesota
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From:
Christine Viken
Date:
Apr 06 04:33 UTC
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I backed well-laid out arguments concerning late bar hours, and I can't presume
to know the impetus behind Rep. Phylis Kahn's proposal regarding bar hours. But
I won't sit back and allow an attempt to malign her position in opposition to a
the football field proposed for Nicollet Island.
Dave's characterized that issue as Rep. Kahn being "deathly opposed to a small
high school having a football field near her house - because of the noise and
inconvenience."
If it were not for the Strib "managing" the information regarding the issue,
the
public in general might know that the issue was the location of the field on a
pivotal spot within the St. Anthony Falls Historic District. The project is
slated for a regional and National Park and was opposed by the National Park
Service, the National Trust for Historic Preservation, the MN Historical
Society, the Preservation Alliance of Minnesota and the Sierra Club NOT because
they oppose DeLaSalle or sports, but because this location defies federal,
state
and local regulations specifically put in place to protect the Historic
District
and the Mississippi Critical Area.
On the other hand, those powering this facility through for "a small high
school" named DeLaSalle represented possibly the broadest political and
religious connections behind an issue that was not "political in the normal
sense," i.e. abortion or gay rights.
Despite the characterizations by DeLaSalle proponents, this was never just a
Rep. Kahn NIMBY issue.
If there is information concerning Rep. Kahn's support of extending bar hours,
let's address that and the arguments surrounding the issue itself.
No matter what the issue, "pulling a Soucheray" does not further the
discussion.
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