Post in Photo Id petition drive stepping up in Saint Paul
First of all, I fail to understand what health care and the upcoming nurses strike has to do with photo ID. They are two completely separate issues. I hope that as a legislator Mr. Delton will think more logically than this. Secondly, I have repeatedly asked Mr. Delton and his Republican Voter ID cohorts where is the evidence that voter photo ID is even needed. Since the 2008 re-election, they, lead by a group called Minnesota Majority, have repeated talked about a study showing that some 400,000 voting records did not match. That number has also been 16,000 or 60,000 depending on the day, or who is posting. This group, including Republican Gubernatorial candidate Tom Emmer, went so far as to sue Secretary of State Mark Ritchie for allegedly not following state law. http://www.startribune.com/politics/state/46384897.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiUjc8LDyiUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU At the time the Secretary of State was sued, the Strib reported, "He (Ritchie) said the goal was to match voter registration and the certified canvassing board totals within 1,000 names. "You'll never get a perfect correlation between the two," he said. "We were at 40,000 in April. We're at about 30,000 now." Supporters of Photo ID, keep taking this one quote by Ritchie out of context, and using it to say that Ritchie admitted that 40,000 people voted in 2008 who shouldn't have. However the Majority Majority Report that allegedly showed 400,000 errors in state voting records had significant problems of its own. "Ritchie said he didn't know why some counties turned up with zero registered voters in Minnesota Majority's report. "Their number is so far different from the actual number in the database that it's not possible for me to speak to it," he said. Aitkin County was listed in the report as having zero registered voters and 9,455 certified ballots. But Auditor Kirk Peysar said his county had reported its registered voters and that the number matched the ballots." In St. Louis County, Elections Director Paul Tynjala said the county's results also were up to date. "I have no idea why they wouldn't show up," he said. Minnesota Majority's research showed the county, a DFL stronghold, with 119,435 certified ballots and zero registered voters posted in the system. http://www.startribune.com/politics/state/46384897.html?page=2&c=y Minnesota Majority's and the Republican lawsuit, which was based on this flawed "study" and is now the basis for the photo ID push, was quickly dismissed by Minnesota Supreme Court. Supreme court rejects MN Majority case against Ritchie<http://minnesotaindependent.com/40178/supreme-court-rejects-mn-majority-case-against-ritchie> "(T)he court said the plaintiffs neither describe nor identify any wrongful acts, omissions or errors of respondents concerning a specific election as required by Minnesota statute. It added that they requested no relief specific to the 2008 election, noting that even if they had tied it to the election, the window for contesting the election has passed." http://minnesotaindependent.com/40178/supreme-court-rejects-mn-majority-case-against-ritchie If we go to the Saint Paul Photo ID site, http://stpaulphotoid.com/ and click on the tab: "Why do we need to require Photo ID?", it links to the discredited Minnesota Majority "study". Why do we need to require Photo ID? [image: PDF]<http://stpaulphotoid.com/index.php?view=article&id=19%3Awhyphotoid&format=pdf&option=com_content&Itemid=35> [image: Print]<http://stpaulphotoid.com/index.php?view=article&id=19%3Awhyphotoid&tmpl=component&print=1&layout=default&page=&option=com_content&Itemid=35> [image: E-mail]<http://stpaulphotoid.com/index.php?option=com_mailto&tmpl=component&link=aHR0cDovL3N0cGF1bHBob3RvaWQuY29tL2luZGV4LnBocD9vcHRpb249Y29tX2NvbnRlbnQmdmlldz1hcnRpY2xlJmlkPTE5OndoeXBob3RvaWQmSXRlbWlkPTM1> Written by Administrator Saturday, 27 March 2010 23:21 People often ask "Why do we need to require a photo ID? Has there been fraud?" YES!!! There have been multiple cases of fraud and attempted fraud in Minnesota and nationwide. Here is just one source: http://www.minnesotamajority.org/TheIssues/ElectionIntegrity/tabid/188/Default.aspx However, even on their own website, Minnesota Majority, does not post their "study". Apparently their methodology and facts are so flawed, they know if they actually posted their data, it would show that their claims do not hold water. Once again, I ask Mr. Delton, where are your facts, where is your data, of any fraudulent voting in Saint Paul that there is the need for a photo ID requirement for voters. Dann Dobson Summit Hill
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Jamie Delton <email obscured>>wrote: We're talking about the low cost of providing non-driver ID's, an existing > service provided by DMV, to the portion of St. Paul voters who don't drive. > That is hardly the scope of an unfunded mandate. > > I'm sure the DMV will cooperate with St. Paul and give us the best possible > arrangement if we establish reasonable policy the opposite of what Flash > suggests and do not require the DMV to work overtime each election day > churning out cards onsite. > > Yes the city must provide an ID free to those who cannot afford one. > > The League of Woman Voters has taken a radical course in choosing the word > poll tax which is ignorant and misleading. > There is an important history in this country of poll taxes and this effort > is not part of it. > The League of Woman Voters of all groups should realize this and would > serve the community better by not misleading people about our Photo ID > election integrity effort. > > People can invoke and exploit the 1800's Southern Democrat poll tax and > race-based oppression in opposition to our effort all they want. It won't > work and it reflects poorly on them. The people of St. Paul are better and > smarter than that. > > Thune brings up an important point that the Nurses will soon strike. > This issue has grave consequences for our elderly. The Democrat-supported > unions should resolve this issue before it comes to the > point where we shut down services as happened in St. Paul in 2005. > > Because of the Minnesota Nurses Association Political Committee's belief > that healthcare is a right (it is a privilege), their support of Card Check > (Employee Free Choice Act, which will increase unemployment, kill jobs and > businesses), their Vision for Healthcare Reform, their support for a Single > Payer system, their support for Senator John Marty's 2008 SF2324, and their > opposition to the BON's Licensure Compact, I cannot seek their endorsement > even though I believe in the critical importance of their members' > healthcare work, that everyone should have healthcare, and, in some cases, > that healthcare might be restructured to focus on primary and preventative > care. > And that is too bad because they have issues important to them that the > legislature might help them on such as licensure. > There is a place for healthcare in capitalism and we can achieve small-u > universal coverage (not Universal Coverage) in a capitalist system. > However the Obama administration is destroying this hope day by day. The > $2.4 trillion Obamacare bill, HR3590, which supposedly addressed the > uninsured, leaves many uninsured and takes away $500 billion from Medicare > each year in an effort to shift responsibility to state-run Medicaid > programs. Huntley, whose MN healthcare bill passed recently, and other > Democrat MN legislators, support Obama's destruction of Medicare, tax > increases, and healthcare cost increases. This is of great local importance > to our elderly. I support repeal of Obamacare and any associated MN bills, > such as Huntley's HF001, even though it contains accounting shifts that > fixed the $3billion deficit by borrowing from various commissions. Taxes and > increased costs in HR3590 will begin June 21 2010 and some provisions of the > bill, including increasingly restrictive or costly patient choices and the > establishment of boards such as IPAB, the Independent Payment Advisory > Board, which Obama's Office of Manageme > nt and Budget Director Peter Orszag criticized as a rationing system, will > begin in 2014. > > Please visit Facebook.com and search on Jamie for State Rep, or visit > JamieforStateRep.com for more info on my campaign and on Photo ID. > > Best Regards, > Jamie Delton > Downtown St. Paul, Summit-U, Fort Road, West Side > Republican-endorsed State House 65B candidate > > > > Jamie Delton > Summit University, St. Paul > Info about Jamie Delton: http://forums.e-democracy.org/p/deltonjamie > > View all messages on this topic at: > http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/topic/2GlUvgol5kMGgGP4WzbnKY > ----------------------------------------- > To post, e-mail: <email obscured> > Use "Reply-to-All" via e-mail to post publicly. > To leave or for daily digest, type "unsubscribe" or "digest on" > in subject, then send to: <email obscured> > > More information about St. Paul Issues Forum: > http://forums.e-democracy.org/groups/stpaul-issues > > E-Democracy.Org rules: http://e-democracy.org/rules > ----------------------------------------- > Technical assistance thanks to our friends at http://OnlineGroups.Net > > Citizens Guide to St. Paul > http://e-democracy.org/wiki/Citizens_Guide_to_St._Paul > > Questions about rules violations? Send complaints and items for > investigation to: <email obscured> >
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