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From: Sheldon Mains Date: 2008 Jan 08 15:36 UTC Short link

Just heard someone call it the "Lurt" (rimes with Burt). I like it. Better
than LRT.

sheldon
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From: Jeane Moore Date: 2008 Jan 08 16:07 UTC Short link

And language wins again!  I like it, too, and I love seeing these
needed new words take root.

From: Ronald Leurquin Date: 2008 Jan 08 16:21 UTC Short link

Maybe we should call it the 'Boondoggle Line' since some many naysayer's
are still calling it that in spite of its overwhelming success.
What ceases to amaze me is all the people that complain about its costs
and ignore the costs of our roads.
Yes, the LRT cost a huge amount of money to build, but it started from
scratch.
Try building our roads from scratch sometime and then compare costs.
Ron Leurquin
LRT advocate
Nokomis East



And language wins again!  I like it, too, and I love seeing these needed
new words take root.

From: David Tilsen Date: 2008 Jan 08 16:55 UTC Short link

I like SMART  --   St. Paul ,  Minneapolis Area Rapid Transit

From: leigh combs Date: 2008 Jan 08 20:56 UTC Short link

i still do not understand why the LRT is street level on Hiawatha as opposed to
underground or up as to not mess with car, foot and nbike traffic....but then
again i do not undertand lots of things like
why would thye build a baseball stadium without a retractable roof?  i will
stop there.  I think the line that exists should be called
MOADT - Mall of America to Downtown
or
MOAMPLS - MOA to DT Minneapolis
ok i just made these up
peace
leigh

From: Steve Brandt Date: 2008 Jan 08 21:02 UTC Short link

Reminds of the days when John Derus was the major voice in the state pushing
for LRT.  The county board used to joke that when it finally got built, it
ought to be DART, for Derus Area Rapid Transit.

Steve Brandt
Kingfield

>>> "David Tilsen" <email obscured>> 1/8/2008 10:32 AM >>>
I like SMART  --   St. Paul ,  Minneapolis Area Rapid Transit

-----Original Message-----
From: Leurquin, Ronald <email obscured>]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 10:22 AM
Cc: <email obscured>
Subject: Re: [Mpls] What to call the LRT system

Maybe we should call it the 'Boondoggle Line' since some many naysayer's
are still calling it that in spite of its overwhelming success.
What ceases to amaze me is all the people that complain about its costs
and ignore the costs of our roads.
Yes, the LRT cost a huge amount of money to build, but it started from
scratch.
Try building our roads from scratch sometime and then compare costs.
Ron Leurquin
LRT advocate
Nokomis East

And language wins again!  I like it, too, and I love seeing these needed
new words take root.

Jeane

On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 09:33:00 -0600, you wrote:

>Just heard someone call it the "Lurt" (rimes with Burt). I like it.
>Better than LRT.
>
>sheldon
>.................................
>Sheldon Mains
>Seward Neighborhood, Minneapolis, Minnesota

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From: Steve Kotvis Date: 2008 Jan 08 21:19 UTC Short link

I really like SMART. Works great as an acronym. Shows those using it they're
making an intelligent choice.

But I wish there could be something more locally identifiable and fun.

For example, I'm thinking about Boston's story behind its "CharlieCard." The
CharlieCard is a contactless, stored value smart card used for electronic
ticketing as part of the Automated Fare Collection (AFC) system installed by
the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority (MBTA) at its stations and on
its vehicles. The CharlieCard is named after a fictional character in a folk
music song often called Charlie on the MTA, which concerns a man trapped
forever on the Boston subway because he can't pay the fare required to exit.

I know that's not the name of their system. But it's fun, especially when
the transit worker with the thick Boston accent asks you if you'd like to
buy a "Chaalecaad."

________________________
Steve Kotvis
Mpls, Kenwood


> From: Steve Brandt <email obscured>>
> Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 15:01:33 -0600
> To: <email obscured>>, <email obscured>>
> Subject: Re: [Mpls] What to call the LRT system
>
> Reminds of the days when John Derus was the major voice in the state pushing
> for LRT.  The county board used to joke that when it finally got built, it
> ought to be DART, for Derus Area Rapid Transit.
>
> Steve Brandt
> Kingfield
>
>>>> "David Tilsen" <email obscured>> 1/8/2008 10:32 AM >>>
> I like SMART  --   St. Paul ,  Minneapolis Area Rapid Transit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leurquin, Ronald <email obscured>]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 10:22 AM
> Cc: <email obscured>
> Subject: Re: [Mpls] What to call the LRT system
>
> Maybe we should call it the 'Boondoggle Line' since some many naysayer's
> are still calling it that in spite of its overwhelming success.
> What ceases to amaze me is all the people that complain about its costs
> and ignore the costs of our roads.
> Yes, the LRT cost a huge amount of money to build, but it started from
> scratch.
> Try building our roads from scratch sometime and then compare costs.
> Ron Leurquin
> LRT advocate
> Nokomis East
>
>
>
> And language wins again!  I like it, too, and I love seeing these needed
> new words take root.
>
> Jeane
>
> On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 09:33:00 -0600, you wrote:
>
>> Just heard someone call it the "Lurt" (rimes with Burt). I like it.
>> Better than LRT.
>>
>> sheldon
>> .................................
>> Sheldon Mains
>> Seward Neighborhood, Minneapolis, Minnesota
>
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From: Arthur Himmelman Date: 2008 Jan 08 21:36 UTC Short link

David Tilsen's SMART (Saint Paul Minneapolis Rapid Area Transit) idea is great.
It puts Saint Paul first which is a good thing for a city that I think of as
"poised on the edge of yesterday."?

A somewhat more playful name for the LRT?could be TC Rider.?We?could sing the
old CC Rider song with some local lyrics as we rock and roll down the line....


Arthur T. Himmelman
Loring Park

From: Steve Basile Date: 2008 Jan 08 22:17 UTC Short link

Try this-

Twin Cities Rapid Transit = TCRT = "t-cart" or "teacart"

Inspiration from Bay Area Rapid Transit - BART

Steve Basile
Standish

From: Jennifer Rubenzer Date: 2008 Jan 08 22:22 UTC Short link

Since this is a Minneapolis forum, shouldn't it be MART - Minneapolis Area
Rapid Transit.

We could call it MARTy!

Jenny

Jennifer Rubenzer Maple Grove

From: Ronald Leurquin Date: 2008 Jan 08 22:22 UTC Short link

SMART makes great since for the line between the downtowns, but not the
system.
Hiawatha Line is my pick for the LRT line we now have since it follows
Hiawatha Ave along a good portion of its path.
MAMOA is odd, but could stand for Minneapolis, Airport, MOA; the major
points of connection.
Just an idea since that's the thread.
Ron Leurquin
Nokomis East

From: Stewart Van Cleve Date: 2008 Jan 08 22:59 UTC Short link

SteveMinne made a good suggestion:

From: Steve Basile Date: 2008 Jan 08 23:58 UTC Short link

Stewart,

For two old towns, it would be wonderful to reclaim history in this way.

Tips on where to research this would be welcome. I'd be happy to do some of
the legwork.

Steve Basile
in a Standish 1920s bungalow

From: Annie Young Date: 2008 Jan 09 00:07 UTC Short link

I also like"SMART"  as it points
out that one is smart to take the SMART.In Atlanta it's the MARTA, in San
Fransicso it's the BART -  METRO in
DC.   I like the idea of something catchey that everyone refers to for the
entire system.Annie YoungEast
Phillips On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:35:53 -0500 <email obscured> wrote:>
David
Tilsen's SMART (Saint Paul Minneapolis Rapid Area >Transit) idea is great. It
puts Saint Paul first which is
>a good thing for a city that I think of as "poised on the >edge of
yesterday."? > > A
somewhat more playful name for the LRT?could be TC >Rider.?We?could sing the
old CC Rider song with some
>local lyrics as we rock and roll down the line....> > > Arthur T. Himmelman>
Loring
Park> > > >

From: Connie Sullivan Date: 2008 Jan 09 20:42 UTC Short link

>At 5:58 PM -0600 1/8/08, Steve Basile wrote:
>
>For two old towns, it would be wonderful to reclaim history in this way.
>
>Tips on where to research this would be welcome. I'd be happy to do some of
>the legwork.
>  >
>  And Stewart Van Cleve said:

>SteveMinne made a good suggestion:
>>
>>  --Try this-
>>
>>  Twin Cities Rapid Transit = TCRT = "t-cart" or "teacart"--
>>
>>  Wasn't "TCRT" the name of the public transportation system during the
>>  streetcar era, before Mpls/SP switched to buses?  Perhaps we would be
>>  returning full circle by changing the name back, but we would at
>>least be able
>  > to reclaim a small piece of our forgotten history.
>>
Connie adds:

There's a recently-published book that contains pretty much
everything you ever wanted to know about the streetcars in our
town[s]: by John W. Diers and Aaron Isaacs. Twin Cities by Trolley:
The Streetcar Era in Minneapolis and St. Paul. Mpls: University of
Minnesota Press, 2007.

TCRT was indeed the Twin City Rapid Transit Co, a private concern
that mismanaged the presence of automobiles and buses in the 1940s.
The authors have a good story on the scandals associated with the
demise of the streetcars, and what happened to the various players in
those scandals.

The last route running was the Como-Harriet line, which died after a
last pass in June of 1954.

Connie
Como, in Southeast Minneapolis

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