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Latest post made by Dean Carlson at 2007 Nov 19 19:46 UTC

From: Bill Dooley Date: 2007 Nov 19 14:38 UTC Short link

There was a recent request to this list for information on the
affordable housing project proposed for the vacant Werness Bros Funeral
Home property at 3700 Nicollet. Here is a SOUTHWEST JOURNAL story re
this project:

Southwest residents wary about planned affordable housing project
By Jake Weyer
KINGFIELD - Residents who would live near a planned affordable apartment
complex for homeless youth and young adults brought plenty of concerns
to a community discussion about the project Nov. 7 at Martin Luther King
Park Recreation Center.

The Plymouth Church Neighborhood Foundation is working with youth
service provider YouthLink on the development, slated to replace a
vacant funeral home at 3700 Nicollet Ave. Residents from Kingfield and
Lyndale didn't express doubts about the organizations' good intentions,
but said they were worried about crime, building design and mass, and
other issues.

Here is the rest of the story:
http://www.swjournal.com/index.php?&story=10407&page=152&category=63



Bill Dooley
Kenny

From: David Brauer Date: 2007 Nov 19 15:34 UTC Short link

Bill writes:

The Plymouth Church Neighborhood Foundation is working with youth
service provider YouthLink on the development, slated to replace a
vacant funeral home at 3700 Nicollet Ave.

Me:

Yeah, it's our own Lydia House. Hopefully it will be less contentious, but
we'll see.

Two things:

1. I'd encourage anyone interested in more details to go to our Web site,
http://www.kingfield.org. At the recent community meeting, there were some
crime stats thrown out for similar projects (Lydia House in Stevens Square, St.
Barnabas over by HCMC and Archdale Apts. At 1600 1st Ave. S.). The stats listed
address of arrestees, but arrestees can give fake or old addresses, and the
Plymouth folks contend the number is vastly overstated. Their response, as well
as the stats, are on the Kingfield site. We're still trying to verify the crime
data independently so we can all have common facts to draw on.

1a. I'd really welcome insight from folks who live/work near the three projects
listed above on how they've affected the neighborhood, or not. (The need for
the program is obvious, but the neighborhood implications are less so. My sense
at the meeting is that anxious neighbors aren't unthinking NIMBYs, but people
who live in or near Kingfield's higher-crime quadrant with genuine questions
about how developments like these affect the surrounding area.)

2. The article states that the Kingfield Neighborhood Assn. (which I chair) has
given preliminary approval to the project. This is true but somewhat
misleading. A few months ago, the board voted that the project concept fits
with long-approved neighborhood housing goals. However, we did not vote on the
project's particulars - social-service plan, design, property management - in
other words, all the details that make a project a project.

The board at this point is trying at this point to be an honest broker for
neighbors, businesses and others to judge the project. We'll make a
recommendation to the City Council in a few months, but we're trying to let
Kingfielders know that this is early (we just found out last week that Plymouth
hired YouthLink) and isn't a "done deal," at least between the neighborhood
association and Plymouth. The public is just getting to know the project, so
it's due diligence fact-gathering time.

Thanks for any insight the list can bring.

From: Dean Carlson Date: 2007 Nov 19 19:46 UTC Short link

With any affordable housing project, the property management team is key.
Plymouth Church Neighborhood Foundation is top notch and you have a winner
there.

Although this is a "tougher" part of Kingfield don't think that some
neighborhood opposition is all in the name of getting the facts straight.  Most
people these days are way too savvy to say outright they are opposed to
affordable housing but instead couch it in terms of density, property values,
and crime.  A few well researched facts presented to the public can usually
ferret out those who have legitimate concerns from those who just want to play
on fear.

Good Luck!

Dean E. Carlson
Ward 10, East Harriet

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "David Brauer" <email obscured>>

> Bill writes:
>
> The Plymouth Church Neighborhood Foundation is working with youth
> service provider YouthLink on the development, slated to replace a
> vacant funeral home at 3700 Nicollet Ave.
>
> Me:
>
> Yeah, it's our own Lydia House. Hopefully it will be less contentious, but
we'll
> see.
>
> Two things:
>
> 1. I'd encourage anyone interested in more details to go to our Web site,
> http://www.kingfield.org. At the recent community meeting, there were some
crime
> stats thrown out for similar projects (Lydia House in Stevens Square, St.
> Barnabas over by HCMC and Archdale Apts. At 1600 1st Ave. S.). The stats
listed
> address of arrestees, but arrestees can give fake or old addresses, and the
> Plymouth folks contend the number is vastly overstated. Their response, as
well
> as the stats, are on the Kingfield site. We're still trying to verify the
crime
> data independently so we can all have common facts to draw on.
>
> 1a. I'd really welcome insight from folks who live/work near the three
projects
> listed above on how they've affected the neighborhood, or not. (The need for
the
> program is obvious, but the neighborhood implications are less so. My sense
at
> the meeting is that anxious neighbors aren't unthinking NIMBYs, but people
who
> live in or near Kingfield's higher-crime quadrant with genuine questions
about
> how developments like these affect the surrounding area.)
>
> 2. The article states that the Kingfield Neighborhood Assn. (which I chair)
has
> given preliminary approval to the project. This is true but somewhat
misleading.
> A few months ago, the board voted that the project concept fits with
> long-approved neighborhood housing goals. However, we did not vote on the
> project's particulars - social-service plan, design, property management - in
> other words, all the details that make a project a project.
>
> The board at this point is trying at this point to be an honest broker for
> neighbors, businesses and others to judge the project. We'll make a
> recommendation to the City Council in a few months, but we're trying to let
> Kingfielders know that this is early (we just found out last week that
Plymouth
> hired YouthLink) and isn't a "done deal," at least between the neighborhood
> association and Plymouth. The public is just getting to know the project, so
> it's due diligence fact-gathering time.
>
> Thanks for any insight the list can bring.
>
>
>
>
> David Brauer
> Kingfield, Minneapolis
> Info about David Brauer: http://forums.e-democracy.org/contacts/brauerdavid

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