living spaces last Spring. That there is a meager supply shows just what the
City administration stands for. Certainly not the disadvantage. They are
spending tons of money tearing out trees for bike trails, for example.
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Minneapolis, MN
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> On Oct 18, 2020, at 1:47 PM, Carin Peterson <<email obscured>> wrote:
>
> ļ»æThank you Deb!
> That was passionate ,well stated and spot on!
> Ending homelessness, especially with chronic and our youth populations
> MUST be tied to SERVICES!
>
> I look forward to working with you and hopefully ~ making a dent!
>
> Carin Peterson
> Sheridan Neighborhood Org
>
>> On Sun, Oct 18, 2020, 9:21 AM Dave Tilsen <<email obscured>> wrote:
>>
>> When I first learned about this proposal several months ago, I thought the
>> time homes were going to be built in the parking lot, with the indoor space
>> used for services, etc.
>> I thought that was really a creative interesting idea. I did used it with
>> council members at the time.
>>
>> I later learned that the homes were inside. I think it will be much more
>> difficult to keep the place livable this way. I do see that the winter
>> will be easier.
>>
>> David Tilsen
>> 612-281-8576 mobile
>> 612-823-8169 land line
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>>
>> On Oct 17, 2020, at 11:23 PM, Sheri Riemers <<email obscured>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> ļ»æ I would firmly disagree with that. Much of it is mandated by federal and
>> state statutes, funding, and licensure requirements that most all fall
>> under federal mandates. Those mandates dictate; age, type of
>> runaway/homeless history, length of stay, and type of shelter housing a
>> young person may qualify for. There is a considerable amount of mandated
>> requirements one has to fit under. Federal programming can be incredibly
>> constraining. Very rigid. Homeless and Runaway youth programs only have the
>> best interest of all youth. Newsflash...Unless you make changesn at the
>> federal levelā¦ You will have the same regulations overseeing any new
>> program thatās created. Youāll be in the same mold licensing and
>> requirements as the rest of them.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2020, at 10:46 PM, Jonette Lucia <<email obscured>> wrote:
>>
>> ļ»æ In all honestly.........my sincere concern is that these organizations
>> are more interested in their own preservation than addressing the needs of
>> teen parents and their children. This must be addressed with a serious,
>> open and honest conversation. I am happy to facilitate this discussion.
>> Iāve been around this for too many years.....
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2020, at 6:11 PM, Sheri Riemers <<email obscured>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> ļ»æ There are over 14+ homeless youth organizations and street outreach
>> similar to ADYC all advocating for homeless youth. It would be helpful to
>> reach out to them to see how theyāre doing that. We have all been working
>> very hard. And have multiple brand new apartment buildings across metro
>> that have been built in the last three years. I know it doesnāt seem like
>> it. But we just canāt keep up with the demand. The more we build the more
>> homeless youth we have. Itās out of control. But teen moms is definitely an
>> area to tackle.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Joe Nathan <<email obscured>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> ļ»æ
>> With $100 million in bonds just approved by the legislature and Governor,
>> shouldn't we be talking about what Mn Housing (the relevant state agency)
>> will be funding with that enormous amount of money? (not enough to meet
>> the full need, but more than has been available the past)
>>
>> Yes, some of that money should be used for permanent housing (and
>> services) for individuals. But there's a HUGE unmet need for families,
>> including teen parents and homeless teens. There seem to be far fewer
>> advocates for these young families. The most recent proposals for funding
>> from Mn Housing don't even MENTION youth who are experiencing homelessness.
>>
>> We need MANY more places like Ain Dah Yung - which provide both housing
>> and assistance to young people.
>>
>> If you want to work together to help meet needs of young people, teen
>> parents and families, please let me know.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 3:32 PM Barbara Lickness <
>> <email obscured>> wrote:
>>
>>> Not a permanent solution, It will keep these people out of the cold for
>>> the winter. Baby steps. That is all I am saying. Not a great response but
>>> that is all I have.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 17, 2020, 12:11 PM, Sheldon Gitis <
>>> <email obscured>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think this link might be a little more informative.
>>>
>>>
>>>
https://minnesotareformer.com/2020/07/15/tiny-house-village-inside-old-kmart-could-shelter-200-people/
>>>
>>> Rather spending $2M on 100 8X12 boxes, or $20,000/temporary shelter, why
>>> not build 10 permanent, small but not that small, large enough to eat, shit
>>> and shower, $200,000 homes? As Greg put it, something a little more
>>> dignified.
>>>
>>> One thing the Ch. 4 story does mention, but doesnāt explain, is Avivo, a
>>> ālocal outreachā group.
>>>
>>> https://avivomn.org/
>>>
>>>
>>>
https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/10/16/mpls-city-council-approves-indoor-tiny-house-community-for-homeless/
>>>
>>> Apparently, Avivo will be managing the warehouse packed full of the 8X12
>>> ātiny houseā boxes, providing security, janitorial, medical, counseling and
>>> other services, presumably, for a considerable fee. My guess is, if you
>>> could eliminate all the fees paid Avivo, you probably could do a lot better
>>> with the $2M than an abandoned warehouse packed full of 8X12 boxes. For
>>> comparison, the minimum square footage for a Minnesota maximum security
>>> prison cell is 70 square feet So the 8X12 boxes, are only slightly bigger,
>>> or maybe no larger at all, than Minnesotaās maximum security prison cells.
>>> https://www.revisor.mn.gov/rules/2900.0600/
>>>
>>> Maybe, rather than a temporary bandaid, cramming people into 100 or more
>>> 8X12 side-by-side boxes, the powers that be ought to consider spending the
>>> money on something more permanent and less treatment industry-centric. I
>>> donāt think substance abuse is either the cause of homelessness or the
>>> result of homelessness. Obviously, it could be both, or neither, depending
>>> on the circumstances of each homeless individual. Unfortunately, when
>>> youāre using the Avivo treatment industry hammer, every homeless person
>>> looks like doped up nail. And even if a homeless person is wasted on booze
>>> or crack or meth or some other substance, is a warehouse packed with 8X12
>>> boxes really where you want to put them?
>>>
>>> Sheldon Gitis
>>> Roseville
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