Minneapolis E-Democracy will be there to spread the word about our neighborhood forums planning process: http://e-democracy.org/wiki/Minneapolis_neighborhood_forums From: http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/wirelessminneapolis/wirelessmeetings.a sp COMMUNITY SPONSORED PILOT DEMONSTRATIONS & OPEN HOUSE 4 - 8 p.m., Friday, July 14, 2006 Brian Coyle Community Center, 420 15th Ave. S. City staff, elected officials, and representatives from the wireless vendors will be available to field questions and gather suggestions regarding the Community Benefits Agreement. The pilot demonstration events are being sponsored by Phyllis Wheatley Community Center, the Brian Coyle Community Center, Project for Pride in Living, CommonBond Communities and C.T.E.P. AmeriCorps. The City of Minneapolis is planning an informational session this summer for business representatives, which is in addition to the five community meetings it held in the spring. Meeting details will be posted on this site when as they are scheduled, so be sure to check back. You can also sign up to receive Wireless Minneapolis e-mail updates and meeting notices. ^ ^ ^ ^ Steven L. Clift - - - W: http://publicus.net Minneapolis - - - - E: <email obscured> Minnesota - - - - - - T: +1.612.822.8667 USA - - - - Skype/MSN/Y!/AIM: netclift Join Democracies Online: http://dowire.org Start an Issues Forum: http://e-democracy.org/if
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Anyone who attended this event care to comment? I was there for only about 20 minutes....and heard Bill Beck (CIO of Minneapolis) give his presentation... which mentioned the City's use of the wireless network for their emergency communications... I believe he also said something about the new network not interfering with existing wireless networks... Although given that the antenni? are supposedly attached to the tops of telephone poles...given weather, birds, creative vandals...this could mean a high maintenance cost. But I did not get a chance to hear Catherine Settani's presentation on the Community Benefits agreement or the guy from US Internet say why he's better than Earthlink... There was alot of promoting of the internet and electronic communication in general...most people there seemed already have this knowledge. Although the presentation took place in the Brian Coyle center which is in the heart of the Somali community of Cedar Riverside, it didn't seem that any? Somali's other than the manager of the community center were in the gym listening to the presentation... So, attendees, presenters...What did you think? Madeline Douglass Livin in Kingfield Working about 1 block outside of the demo zone!
I was at the event. One correction, I didn't see Bill Beck. Jim Farstad, the City's consultant on this project, was the first speaker and discussed the City's role and why we need it. The interference with other 'hot spots' is sort of a wait-and-see issue. Wireless can be adjusted via channels so it's possible to tweak networks to not interfere with each other. However, there's lots of interference that can't be tweaked like microwaves, cordless phones, and other home-owner wireless modems. (I found about 30 access nodes wandering around my block on Saturday - several unsecured and allowing 'public' access.) As for weather wear-and-tear, I guess that remains to be seen too. Other cities in MN have municipal wireless (Chaska probably the most famous), so there would be something of a track record.) The south pilot area has changed. The map is not at all accurate. I live south of Franklin on 24th Avenue and have three access points on my block (one outside my window). If you look at the map (available at the City's site), my location is outside of the area specified. So if you live in Seward, near Franklin, you might have an access point nearby. I think they extend to almost 27th Ave and down to 24th St. I don't know how to find out the new boundaries but my guess is that USI might be able to supply a new map. I don't know if the north deployment has changed significantly from the original map. The final community benefit recommendations, drawn up by the Digital Inclusion Coalition, are available here. http://www.digitalaccess.org/pdf/CBA_Two-Sided_6-27.pdf These recommendations will go to the Digital Inclusion Task Force, (http://www.digitalaccess.org/taskforce.htm), which will present to the Ways & Means Committee. No date set yet (was scheduled for today but postponed). Earthlink vs. US Internet The biggest difference is that Earthlink is using Tropos radios on the poles and buildings and USI is using Belair. I talked to a USI guy and he made a pretty compelling argument that Belair is better as it is able to sustain higher bandwidth due to multiple radios in the device. Somewhat simplified, the Tropos equipment (Earthlink) can listen OR receive while the Belair can listen AND receive. (This hardware stuff is not my area of expertise whatsoever and remember, I was talking to a USI rep. When I talked to an Earthlink guy, he said there are white papers out on the Net that talk about problems with the multiple radio units.) I also wondered about the lack of Somalis at the presentation. When Cam Gordon held his community meeting on wireless at Coyle Center, it was the same. I have more notes about the pilot demo meeting here. http://www.pfhyper.com/weblog/2006/07/southside-wi-fi-goes-live.html That has a link to my north pilot demo report (July 8). Saturday, I wandered my neighborhood and linked to the wireless network. I got speeds up to 5Mbps (smokin') going both ways. You can read a bit more here. http://www.pfhyper.com/weblog/2006/07/wireless-scene-on-my-block.html Peter Fleck Seward Neighborhood
On 7/16/06, Madeline Douglass <email obscured>> wrote: > > Anyone who attended this event care to comment? > I was there for only about 20 minutes....and heard > Bill Beck (CIO of Minneapolis) give his presentation... > which mentioned the City's use of the wireless network > for their emergency communications... > > I believe he also said something about the new network > not interfering with existing wireless networks... > Although given that the antenni? are supposedly attached > to the tops of telephone poles...given weather, birds, > creative vandals...this could mean a high maintenance cost. > > But I did not get a chance to hear Catherine Settani's > presentation on the Community Benefits agreement or > the guy from US Internet say why he's better than > Earthlink... > > There was alot of promoting of the internet and electronic > communication in general...most people there seemed > already have this knowledge. > > Although the presentation took place in the Brian Coyle > center which is in the heart of the Somali community > of Cedar Riverside, it didn't seem that any? Somali's > other than the manager of the community center > were in the gym listening to the presentation... > > So, attendees, presenters...What did you think? > > Madeline Douglass > Livin in Kingfield > Working about 1 block outside of the demo zone! > Madeline Douglass > Kingfield, Minneapolis > More info: http://forums.e-democracy.org/minneapolis/contacts/madelinedouglass > > - - - - - - - - - - - > To post, send your message to: <email obscured> > To unsubscribe type "unsubscribe" (without the quotation marks) in the > subject line and send to: <email obscured> > > This topic's messages may be viewed at: > http://forums.e-democracy.org/topic/98771 > > For digest or to update bio options (must log-in): > http://forums.e-democracy.org/minneapolis/groups/mpls/ > > E-Democracy.Org rules: http://e-democracy.org/rules > - - - - - - - - - - - > > 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://e-democracy.org/rules. > If you think a member is in violation, contact the forum manager at > <email obscured> before continuing it on the list. > > 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. > > (Note: This is an experimental footer) > -- Peter Fleck Blog: http://www.pfhyper.com/blog <email obscured>
Several non-profit agencies working in the Cedar Riverside area helped with outreach efforts for this event, including CommonBond communities and PPL. There were a number of Somali (men) that came in early during the demonstration event, then many, many Somali kids that stayed late to use the computers. Since this was an all-volunteer effort, we were very happy that so many people attended both the technology fair and the presentation (est. 75-100 during the 4 hour open house) We collected about a dozen new technology needs surveys from residents in the area as well. I also presented at a special wireless information session for West Bank agencies, which included many Somali elders, in early June, and know that Brian Coyle staff contacted their partner agencies from the West Bank Community Fund group about this event...There is another demonstration project running now, with partners KFAI radio, MAP, Somali Action Alliance and others. I know little about this project other than they are making laptops available to local residents during the pilots.