Minneapolis Standish Ericsson Neighbors Forum Latest Posts 2008-07-05T13:19:15Z E-Democracy.Org Forums http://forums.e-democracy.org http://forums.e-democracy.org/groups/mpls-staneric/messages/posts.atom GroupServer http://forums.e-democracy.org/favicon.ico Bike thefts at 38th Street Station http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/1K6KJyK2cGaV39OjP0q7l6 Brendan and Sareen Keenan /p/brendankeerau 2008-07-05T13:19:15Z
My husband and I had the exact same thing happen to us last summer.   We
went to a twins game on a Sunday afternoon - leaving from the 38th street
station.   We came back and there were no bikes.  Our lock was tossed into the
bushes and we asked the Cardinal, and there were people on the patio all
afternoon.   We now have junk bikes to ride to the station with and our other
bikes remain dedicated commuting bikes.   It was a huge loss when it happened
to us.  Sorry to hear that it is still happening - let alone in the middle of
the day.
Sareen
Bike thefts at 38th Street Station http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/5Jatj5821jpBRcolih0nw8 Shirley Yeoman /p/shirleyy 2008-07-03T19:16:53Z
I talked to one of my neighbors last night who might have been the owner of one
of those other bike locks.  She said she has locked a bike at the 38th Street
Station bike racks two different times -and the bike was stolen both times.
Yesterday was one of them.

According to her account knowing the serial number is essential - since she
wasn't able to complete a report with 311 without it.  Although the Metro
Transit police told her there was really no reason they couldn't have completed
the report.  I'm sure the serial number gives you a much better shot at
actually getting a bike back.

Obviously she reported the theft to the Metro Transit police and also notified
Hennepin County Commissioner Peter McLaughlin about the theft and her concerns
about the general safety of bikes at the station. I would encourage anyone else
to also take the time to let Peter know of your concern:
<email obscured>

I had this much of my post written and just happened to get e-mail from Jill
Hentges at Metro Transit about another issue.  I asked her who to contact about
the bike thefts.  I will paste in her response below:

"You told the right person. I?ve talked with our Asst. Director of Facility
Maintenance and although he is limited to maintaining the racks, he asked that
one of our security cameras be pointed at the bike rack. He was told by our
security folks that a 12 and 15 year old were caught yesterday.

I copied this information from our website.
Metropolitan Transit Police Headquarters
2425 Minnehaha Avenue South, Minneapolis, MN 55404
Administrative offices, squad car garage and a holding cell.
David Indrehus, Chief, 612-349-7201

I don?t know if they were apprehended by MPS or Transit Police but I guess
I?d follow-up with Community Safety Officer Karen Notsch at 612-673-2856,
<email obscured> or our Transit Police folks.

I hope that the bikes are recovered and that these young people learn a lesson
and redirect their energies toward something more positive.   Jill"
Need help posting flyers for Minneapolis Standish Ericsson Neighbors Forum http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/dTPfqDDXNviakw4Y79nbG Nathan Lind /p/nathanlind 2008-07-03T19:05:56Z
If you're willing to help me distribute flyers (see Steven's
description below) for our Minneapolis Standish Ericsson Neighbors
Forum, meet me at A Baker's Wife at 1pm on Sunday, July 6th.  Bring
tape, heavy duty stapler or pins.  We'll split up and each take an
area of our neighborhood.  I'll make sure to bring copies of the
flyer.  Feel free to distribute that day, or at another time.  If
you'd just like to make your own copies on your home printer, see the
link near the end to download the PDF to print.  Post to this forum to
let everyone know which parts of the neighborhood you'll post in.
Thanks!

A Baker's Wife
4200 28th Ave S
Minneapolis, MN 55406-3123
Phone: (612) 729-6898
"neighbors" and fireworks http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/63qEXi1TkiW0tsnWnyQnFM Kate Kampa /p/katekampa 2008-07-03T18:41:23Z
wow.
Actually, the best lights are motion detectors.  Saves energy, is on when you
need it and alerts you and your neighbors that someone is approaching.
Bike thefts at 38th Street Station http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/57MfPezKIX0Pwa5pjgSkSd Reid Priedhorsky /p/reid 2008-07-03T17:49:56Z
A strategy I've heard is to use both a quality U-lock _and_ a cable,
since these require different tools to defeat and it's less likely that
a thief would be carrying both.

Also, there are chains and there are chains. This type of chain:
http://www.kryptonitelock.com/Products/ProductDetail.aspx?cid=1001&scid=1002&pid=1168
is very difficult to cut, much more so than cheap chain locks.

Speaking for myself, however, I wouldn't leave a bike of greater than
minimal value unattended in the city for any length of time, even if
locked with a good lock. Even the components are at risk, though I
wouldn't worry about that until the bike reached $500-$1000 or so in value.

> It's too bad the OPID program was removed by the state in 2005 - that
> was how I registered my bike and I'm pretty sure what helped lead to its
> recovery.

Mandatory registration was regularly used by police to arbitrarily
hassle bicyclists and/or confiscate their bikes, a major reason it was
dropped.
Bike thefts at 38th Street Station http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/2p4nztJeG3FQO9BudyIwqW Shawn Isenhart /p/shawnisenhart 2008-07-03T17:14:11Z
Another useful thing to do is to record your bike's serial number (prior
to it being stolen, of course) and then let the MPD know when your bike
is stolen.  I had a stolen bike returned to me after it was recovered
from a pawn shop by matching its serial number.
http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/police/about/bicycles.asp has
information about how to report stolen bikes.

It's too bad the OPID program was removed by the state in 2005 - that
was how I registered my bike and I'm pretty sure what helped lead to its
recovery.

-Shawn Isenhart
Bike thefts at 38th Street Station http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/6OCbrmEY6tjTswx1EmjCQ4 Jeffrey Cronin & Nancy Graves-Cronin /p/jeffreycronin 2008-07-03T15:31:00Z
Yesterday, our son rode his bike to the 38th street station and took the
light rail to the Twins day game, when he came back about 4:30 his bike
lock had been cut and the bike was gone.   Not only that but when I
visited the scene later with him, there were two other bike locks laying
on the ground that had been cut - one was a cable version and one was an
actual metal link chain.   His bike was a brand new blue Schwinn
Frontier, theres $250 I won't see again.

Obviously these thiefs are brazen enough to do this in broad daylight,
in plain view of light rail riders and patrons who sit outside The
Cardinal facing the bike racks.

So if you are using a cable or chain-style bike lock, do yourself a
favor and invest in one of those u-joint steel versions.  Sure they are
more cumbersome but your bike will still be there when you want it.

Jeff Cronin
"neighbors" and fireworks http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/30CKOy4VsVf4l8cRYZ3S8F Karen Newell /p/karennewell 2008-07-03T12:44:44Z
In this case, it was two separate incidents.  The fireworks and the car
break-in were two separate sets of bad people.  I did have a lengthy
conversation with Sue Roethele, our Third Precinct SAFE Crime prevention
officer yesterday.  She said that the car break-ins are just growing
exponentially, along with other theiving. Her advice: if you park on the
street, leave NOTHING in sight.  Nothing. Especially not receipts from gas
stations and purchases made at convenience stores, spare change or bags.  Put
stuff in the trunk if you can.

We watched the perps with their flashlights, shopping in every car up and down
the block while we awaited the police.  I see her point clearly.

Sue's opinion is that the LIGHTS ON policy is a good one, and wishes more folks
would leave their porchlights on dusk-to-dawn. We have been encouraging folks
in our block club to do so for several years. Sue is a very caring person, and
was a great help to us when we had horrendous graffiti incident a couple years
ago.

Karen Newell
"neighbors" and fireworks http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/4fMLrWMk1rJkEDgIMSTV3e Phoenix Redux /p/pheonixredux 2008-07-03T05:37:23Z
Great job, Karen & Dave!

Nice of them to wake you like that so you could call the cops. Brilliant! I
think that from now on, we should really insist that the thieves should wake
us with fireworks before they break into our cars. It makes it SO much
easier to catch them that way. :)
Nothrop Environmental Standardized Test results http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/1D1kwpJHVbUy96tjy5GvmA Shirley Yeoman /p/shirleyy 2008-07-02T21:22:14Z
I couldn't find Northrop at the specific link listed - had to dig around a
little - but found the info here:
http://ww2.startribune.com/dynamic/no_child/grade.php?DistNum=0001&DistType=03&SchNum=152

-- shirley
SENA Weekly News 7/2/08 http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/7Ew4i57f0BpvWFjxoxSNVT Steven Clift /p/stevenclift1 2008-07-02T21:19:34Z

    
"neighbors" and fireworks http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/3yaknPGGzlhhjFlsJYUJ60 Karen Newell /p/karennewell 2008-07-02T11:48:53Z
We'll second that one!  Our Monday morning crime doubleheader:

On Monday morning at 2:45 a.m. we had a string of Black Cats go off in our mail
slot.  After levitating in bed, (Dave is deaf) I went downstairs to the
sickening stench of gunpowder permeating our foyer and living room.  We called
911 and an officer came out.  He said we were probably "chosen" because we had
our porchlight on and the mailslot was easy to see.

He suggested we NOT leave on our light all night.  I am pretty sure that this
was from the same police department that asked everyone to leave their lights
ON for neighborhood safety. Very confusing.

HOWEVER: while Dave and I were discussing the fireworks in our darkened
kitchen, we witnessed two thugs breaking into a neighbor's car to steal her
Sirius radio system. Another 911 call, and the cops were there in a flash and
apprehended the culprits after a brief chase and canine assist.  Bravo.

Sadly, we feel like we should have 911 on speed dial for the Fourth of July.
Grrrrr.

Karen Newell
"neighbors" and fireworks http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/2UryinHfs5sSVQ3Y3u6Rfx Ann Novitske /p/annnovitske 2008-07-02T03:46:34Z
HEAR, HEAR, KATE!

I've lived in the neighborhood (near Roosevelt HS) since 1999 and every
June-July like clockwork, the place sounds like a war zone.  For a few years
after moving to Standish, it was so bad that my significant other & I took
vacations to Canada over the 4th just to be away from the horrible noise &
smell.  The RHS parking lot was an especially popular location to shoot stuff
off until the school installed video cameras that monitor the lot (thank
heavens) a few years ago.  Now we just have to deal with neighbors across the
alley lighting bricks of firecrackers at midnight on weeknights...

Lest you all think I'm a 4th-o-July-scrooge, I have no problem with people
celebrating with fireworks -- as long as it's nowhere near my high-density
little urban neighborhood.  Take them out to the sticks & go crazy, I say!  But
to be illegally setting them off in such close proximity to people, pets &
buildings is flat-out rude & irresponsible.  In addition to the danger posed by
fireworks (a friend of mine was badly burned last year by a firework that shot
out balls of sparks when its "cannon" fell over after the first "ball" was
out), they are a pollutant that dirties the air (with smoke), ground & water
(when residual wrappers & such are left behind) and our ears (with unwanted
noise).

I second Kate's request that you call 911 if you see or hear illegal fireworks.
I did so tonight after a neighbor down the block & across the alley was
disturbing my peace -- but as is typically the case, they stopped as soon as I
hung up the phone.  No matter -- if we keep calling, it'll send the message to
the police that we won't tolerate fireworks in Standish-Ericsson.  Solidarity,
neighbors!

Ann Novitske
Nothrop Environmental Standardized Test results http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/2LJdUsTGXy71ph8GvIBed1 Craig Grossman /p/craiggrossman 2008-07-02T03:34:49Z
I think it's in here Sean:
http://ww2.startribune.com/dynamic/no_child/district.php?dst=metch
Nothrop Environmental Standardized Test results http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/mUe4eTwBA1Smu5L6EhoqL Sean McNiff /p/seanmcniff 2008-07-02T03:31:45Z
I heard on the radio that the State standardized test results were released.
Has anyone heard how Northrop Environmental scored? If so could you link to
the results?
Real names, civility http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/24WVI5aChj9L84L2nFI9GI Steven Clift /p/stevenclift1 2008-07-02T03:24:42Z
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Also, I did receive a couple complaints (never hesitate to alert me to
items you think break the rules because I won't catch everything) about
the tone in the exchange on the homicide the other month. Obviously the
more people think of forum as a back fence conversation or a small group
of neighbors siting around the table the better. Not everyone will be
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idiots and fireworks http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/3tuPig3ugracwdLrrTog1t Kate Kampa /p/katekampa 2008-07-01T00:10:55Z
Okay, so, its the 4th of July and what better way to celebrate than to wake
your neighbors and make their dogs howl.  We were awakened by fireworks from
3:00 a.m. to 3:30 a.m. on Sunday morning and from 2:00 to 2:30 a.m. on
Monday.  They are less than fun during the day and early evening but the
middle of the night is unconscionable.

Just in case everyone is not aware, most fireworks are illegal in Minnesota.
This is an excerpt from the City of Minneapolis web page:

"Examples of items that are permitted include sparklers, cones and tubes
that emit sparks, novelty items like snakes, and party poppers.
Explosive and aerial fireworks are prohibited for public sale, possession
and use in the State of Minnesota. Prohibited fireworks include, but are not
limited to firecrackers, bottle rockets, missiles, roman candles, mortars
and shells.
Please review the list of examples of legal and illegal fireworks at
WWW.FIRE.STATE.MN.US"

So, if you see anything or hear anything, its probably illegal not to
mention annoying and dangerous.  On Saturday, the business end of a rocket
landed 3 feet away from our neighbors' 2 year old!  (He confronted the
offenders and they stopped, eventually).

So, I beg all of you!  If the idiots are next to you, either point out that
what they are doing is illegal and ask them to stop or call 911.  The
problem for those who don't know where they are coming from (but are still
disturbed) is that when we call 911, we can only give a general directions
of where we hear them and that doesn't get us very far.  Repeated (even
anonymous) calls with the correct address of the offenders can!  We have
successfully stopped some of our neighbors from ruining our nights.
(Besides the fact that fireworks are illegal, it is also against the law to
be that load after 10 p.m.)  So, please, if the offenders live next to you,
help the rest of us out and call the police!
Celebrating Nature in Standish and Ericsson - MinnesotaMinute.Org Video Contest http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/64zFcpAaEvWg3ZVgeoNxI6 Steven Clift /p/stevenclift1 2008-06-26T21:29:22Z
The Minnesota Minute online video contest celebrating Minnesota's nature,
environment, and outdoors that I mentioned earlier has been extended to
September 1st. It would be great to get some submissions from Minnehaha Creek
or Lake Hiawatha.

Check out the submissions and prizes (including a Sony Palmcorder) from:

   http://minnesotaminute.org

Steven Clift
E-Democracy.Org
Arson Investigator looking for public's assistance http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/5EgK1belMkpYddlHyytM7 Phoenix Redux /p/pheonixredux 2008-06-25T14:28:51Z
I hope they catch the jerks who did that. I like the Cardinal. It's just
lucky they didn't succeed in burning the whole place down.

Didn't a house across the street from there get torched, too?