Hi, I don;t know much more than this yet, but we had heard about it and are planning to do an interview and write a story about it in our next E-Government Bulletin email newsletter, due out friday 20 or monday 23 june. cheers,
I just saw this in the W3C newsletter - anyone know more or want to comment on it, please? -- Thanks, MJR New eGovernment Activity to Help Improve Government through Better Use of the Web W3C launches today a new forum for governments, citizens, researchers, and other stakeholders to investigate how best to use Web technology for good governance and citizen participation. "Open Standards, and in particular Semantic Web Standards, can help lower the cost of government, make it easier for independent agencies to work together, and increase flexibility in the face of change," said Tim Berners-Lee, W3C Director. W3C invites participation in the new eGovernment Interest Group, which is open to the public. The group will identify best practices and guidelines in this area, document where current technology does not adequately address stakeholder needs, and suggest improvements via the standards process. Read the W3C eGovernment FAQ and press release, and learn more about the W3C eGovernment Activity. http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/ http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/ http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/ http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/faq http://www.w3.org/2008/06/egov-pressrelease http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/ Source: http://www.w3.org/News/Public/pnews-20080609
Steven,
A couple thoughts:
If I understand correctly, the current Forums would be doing some networking
and outreach work in nearby communities...sounds viable and worth pursuing...
I'd like to see as many Forums started as possible.
While keeping our Forum local and focused on our issues, we would be able
to connect and share with our sister Forums, when topics of mutual interest are
posted...Fabulous!
1. I would be interested in working on this project
2. With the leadership that we have already, I can foresee a strong membership.
3. The funding can be handled through grants or a possible status change to
501(c) non-profit as well as donations.
As for attracting new community leaders to begin Forums, again, I believe it's
all in the outreach and recruitment process just as we do locally, on a broader
scale.
Certainly worth looking into Steven,
Peace,
Julie Olague
Las Vegas, NM
<email obscured>
This is a really rough idea ... We've been interested in ways to connect people across our Issues Forum communities. Our local networks are filled with active citizens working to improve their local communities. While there are certainly professionals on our forums who do "community development" or "planning" or are a professional expert in something, these voices we hear most tend to come from "just do it" kind of people. How might we help people on our forums be more effective who don't have access to professional support networks? How might we connect "active citizens" from new communities such that they would also be inspired to create local Issues Forums? So my rough idea is to propose a simple "<email obscured>" online group for local exchange of citizen-based ideas, innovations, and practical experiences on improving the quality of life in local places. While professionals tend to sub-divide by practices, my preference is for a silo breaking space that empowers local community builders with ideas and suggestions from other people who like them who are making a difference locally. So whether it is an exchange on traffic calming, improving recycling, or the many many *similar* local issues that come up independently on our various forums interested folks would have access information on multiple topics. What do folks think of this rough idea? A few of the questions that I have are: 1. Is there an interested volunteer Forum Manager? 2. How many of our current 3,000+ members might join? 200 would be nice. 3. Is this a fundable idea? (Might demonstrating something help us seek grants to expand participation and add cross-community knowledge exchange features.) 4. Would this attract new participants not currently covered by an Issues Forum an inspire them lead new forum start-ups (funded ones in particular)? (One of our priorities is to spread awareness to more places such that local community foundations, local governments, etc. will fund assisted forum start-ups. Attracting the types of people who would start local Issues Forums by providing a useful exchange now might make this more likely.) Again, I am looking for input on the idea to see if it is worth proposing to our Board and others. Cheers, Steven Clift Board Chair
The folks at PDF wanted me to extend this discount to E-Democracy.Org volunteers. If you plan or are interested in attending this important conference in New York City, make sure you use the discount. The day after on June 25 I am hoping to organize an E-Democracy specific input/outreach gathering, so let me know if you will be around. - Steven Clift, <email obscured> From: Steven Clift <<email obscured>> To: <email obscured> Sent: 5/19/08, 4:20:42 PM Subject: [DW] Conf - DoWire Discount for Personal Democracy Forum Early Birds - 23-24 June 2008 - New York City If you are on the fence about attending the now two day Personal Democracy Forum - http://www.personaldemocracy.com/conference - in New York, perhaps the DoWire's member discount will entice you to join me at this conference. See the full announcement below. For those outside the U.S., this is one of the best e-democracy events worth jumping over the pond. Their second day (where I will be speaking) includes a major focus on governance and ties to my questions about "White House 2.0" and local up democracy building online between elections. This is a huge shift in U.S. interest in ways citizens can engage each other and their governments online. We've been stuck on e-campaigning for tool long. In addition to the conference, I am planning a gathering either the evening of June 24 or on June 25th. I'd like to update people on the work of E-Democracy.Org, gather your input and have a mini-version of the dynamic neighbors online discussion - http://www.dowire.org/notes/?p=405 - I held in DC the other week. If you'd like an invite, drop me a note: <email obscured> Sincerely, Steven Clift E-Democracy.Org and DoWire.Org Personal Democracy Forum 2008 *Agenda:* To learn how technology is changing the world of government, not-for-profits, and civic engagement. * Date:* June 23?24, 2008 *Place:* Frederick P. Rose Hall, Home of Jazz at Lincoln Center (60th and Broadway, NYC). *Admission:* $595 for Early-Bird Special (minus an additional $150 for DoWire members by May 31st only!) *Website:* http://www.personaldemocracy.com/conference * *Special Discount for DoWire.org Members!* *Use discount code "*dowirepdf*" to receive $150 off the Early-Bird special!* Instructions *1. Log onto http://regonline.com/pdf2008 2. Click "early bird registration" 3. In the field that appears and reads "Promotion," type in discount code* *"*dowirepdf*" 4. Continue with registration * Technology and the Internet are changing politics and democracy.* * _Why Attend_* * Hear from the nation's top opinion makers, thought leaders, political practitioners, technologists, and journalists * Network, exchange ideas, and explore how technology and the Internet can help you and your organization succeed in the new networked world. * Learn about new online tools and how to use them to raise money, build support, and change the world * Meet new customers, partners, collaborators, and innovators * _Who Should Attend_* * Political professionals * Non-profit executives and staff * Communication * Bloggers * Social entrepreneurs * Advocacy organizations * Technology companies * Anyone excited about the future of democracy and advocacy. * _Thought Leader Speakers This Year Include:_ * * Arianna Huffington, Huffington Post * Jimmy Wales, Wikipedia * Vint Cerf, Google * Larry Lessig, Stanford University * Craig Newmark, Craigslist.com * Josh Marshall, Talking Points Memo * Elizabeth Edwards, John Edwards '08 * Michael Arrington, TechCrunch * Joe Trippi, John Edwards '08 & Dean '04 * Ben Smith, Politico.com * Esther Dyson, EDventure.com * Scott Heiferman, Meetup.com * Robert Scoble, FastCompany.tv * Jason Calacanis, Mahalo * Chuck Defeo, Townhall.com * Robin Chase, Zipcar * Amy Holmes, CNN Political Analyst * Beth Noveck, New York Law School * Mike Turk, George Bush '04 * Patrick Ruffini, Republican Web strategist * Douglas Rushkoff, Author * Sarah Stirland, Wired * Zephyr Teachout, Duke University * Matt Stoller, OpenLeft.com * Jose Antonio Vargas, Washington Post * Ethan Zuckerman, Berkman Center * Ellen Miller, Sunlight Foundation * Cyrus Krohn, e-Campaign Director, RNC * Mayhill Fowler, OffTheBus.net * Steve Grove, YouTube * Lee Brenner, MySpace.com Plus many more! * See a YouTube highlight clip from Personal Democracy Forum 2007: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQSeJ0j1Bkw * *_ 2008 Personal Democracy Forum Sponsored By:_* * Mozilla Foundation * AOL * Microsoft * echoditto * Meetup * RealClearPolitics * MSHC Partners * Ketchum * BlogAds * Mobile Commons * ClickToBlue * The NY Observer * CQ Politics * iContact * Townhall.com * justmeans * eventful * Care2 * Aristotle * linkfluence * thepoint * National Journal * freepress Questions? Email: <email obscured> <mailto:<email obscured>> Member profile for Steven Clift: http://groups.dowire.org/contacts/stevenclift
I am considering putting together a small session for ~15 to discuss ways to strengthen neighborhoods using the Internet when I am in Washington DC on Wednesday, May 7. In addition to sharing the story about the exciting launch of the Neighborhood Issues Forum where I live - http://e-democracy.org/se - I'd like to discuss Vermont's Front Porch Forum, iNeighbors (academic project), the Facebook Neighborhoods application, Outside.In and Topix's approach to zipcode based forums, Everyblock.Com, and DC's exceptionally vibrant neighborhood e-mail list network. I am also interested in gathering ideas on block-level tools to support more secure networking among neighbors and how to extend the summer idea of National Night Out to a winter Local Night Online. If you would like an invite - drop me a note: <email obscured> Put "Neighborhoods Online Discussion" in the subject. Steven Clift E-Democracy.Org P.S. We have a small grant to establish two neighborhood forums in high immigrant areas in Minneapolis and St. Paul. Work is getting underway. See: http://e-democracy.org/nf I am interested in learning about any other examples where such an effort has attempted to build a geographically bounded space that is fully reflective an actual and highly diverse local community (v. white middle class active citizens who are the easiest to recruit).
I'm from Detroit! And, by the way, check out this recent feature in Crain's Business Detroit: http://www.crainsdetroit.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080324/SUB/203236654 Scott Aikens Steven Clift <<email obscured>> wrote: We are potentially preparing a grant request to the Knight Foundation that would likely promise to help start X Issues Forums in so-called "Knight Communities." Key to our model is leveraging local volunteer interest and to not colonize from the outside. Therefore, if we know of people in our sphere already based in these specific communities it bumps them up in terms of potential outreach. This is all very tentative, but it since this list is quite large you never know where people are today. Steve Julie Olague wrote: > Hi Steven, > > I'm from Long Beach, California! Just curious...why the interest in these communities?
Tim Erickson is there as a parent helping with his son's class trip. If you want to connect on Issues Forum over coffee, give him a ring on his mobile: 612-246-5045.
Whoops - I forget the link: http://pages.e-democracy.org/SOC_2008 I'll post more details later, but would like to draw peoples attention to a project that St. Paul E-Democracy has been working on with the Mayor's office in St. Paul in conjunction with his State of the City address. This is the kind of community organizing that can take place around an Issues Forum. This is the kind of thing that E-Democracy.Org is promoting in the communities where we work. Thanks, Tim Erickson
I'll post more details later, but would like to draw peoples attention to a project that St. Paul E-Democracy has been working on with the Mayor's office in St. Paul in conjunction with his State of the City address. This is the kind of community organizing that can take place around an Issues Forum. This is the kind of thing that E-Democracy.Org is promoting in the communities where we work. Thanks, Tim Erickson
We are potentially preparing a grant request to the Knight Foundation that would likely promise to help start X Issues Forums in so-called "Knight Communities." Key to our model is leveraging local volunteer interest and to not colonize from the outside. Therefore, if we know of people in our sphere already based in these specific communities it bumps them up in terms of potential outreach. This is all very tentative, but it since this list is quite large you never know where people are today. Steve Julie Olague wrote: > Hi Steven, > > I'm from Long Beach, California! Just curious...why the interest in these communities?
Hi Steven, I'm from Long Beach, California! Just curious...why the interest in these communities? Thanks, Julie Steven Clift <<email obscured>> wrote: See map: http://www.knightfoundation.org/programs/communities/ Aberdeen Akron Biloxi Boulder Bradenton Charlotte Columbia Columbus Detroit Duluth Fort Wayne Gary Grand Forks Lexington Long Beach Macon Bibb County, Ga. Miami Miami-Dade and Broward counties, Florida Milledgeville Baldwin County, Ga. Myrtle Beach Horry County, S.C. Palm Beach Palm Beach County, Fla. Philadelphia Philadelphia, Pa. and Camden, N.J. San Jose Santa Clara, southern Alameda and southern San Mateo counties in California St. Paul Ramsey County, Minn. State College Centre County, Pa. Tallahassee Leon County, Fla. Wichita Sedgwick County, Kansas E-Democracy.Org is preparing an approach to the Knight Foundation. Steven Clift Steven Clift Ericsson, Hennepin Info about Steven Clift: http://forums.e-democracy.org/contacts/stevenclift This topic's messages may be viewed at: http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/topic/78ZZ8TPhpv7TU9Cyoq1V0T
See map: http://www.knightfoundation.org/programs/communities/ Aberdeen Akron Biloxi Boulder Bradenton Charlotte Columbia Columbus Detroit Duluth Fort Wayne Gary Grand Forks Lexington Long Beach Macon Bibb County, Ga. Miami Miami-Dade and Broward counties, Florida Milledgeville Baldwin County, Ga. Myrtle Beach Horry County, S.C. Palm Beach Palm Beach County, Fla. Philadelphia Philadelphia, Pa. and Camden, N.J. San Jose Santa Clara, southern Alameda and southern San Mateo counties in California St. Paul Ramsey County, Minn. State College Centre County, Pa. Tallahassee Leon County, Fla. Wichita Sedgwick County, Kansas E-Democracy.Org is preparing an approach to the Knight Foundation. Steven Clift
Hello friends: Just wanted to pass along the word that there will be a live webcast of the entire "Online Consultation and Public Policy Making: Democracy, Identity, and New Media" symposia taking place tomorrow at the Moritz College of Law, Columbus, Ohio. My interest in this webcast, is that I'm on the agenda as the lunch time speaker, which may also mean that my presentation will be webcast as well (as if I needed the extra pressure of millions of online viewers tuning in to the symposia). :-) For more info about the symposia and how to join the webcast: http://www.is-journal.org/symposia.php I'll be talking about "Building Democracy Through Local Issues Forums." - - - - - - - - - - - Online Consultation and Public Policy Making: Democracy, Identity, and New Media March 14, 2008 | 8:15 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. | Barrister's Club| Moritz College of Law E-Goverance: The Internet now offers the world an unprecedented capacity to foster the sharing of information and to facilitate sustained, many-to-many communication. The networking of citizens with their governments, with each other, and with the organs of civil society has created unprecedented opportunities for popular engagement in the public sphere. To attend any part of this conference, please reserve your seat by contacting Adrienne Montalvo, Executive Editor, at <email obscured> by March 12, 2008. Please indicate whether you would like to reserve a lunch. The Symposim will feature researchers from Australia, England, France, Israel, Italy, Korea and Slovenia, as well as the United States, addressing a variety of e-democracy issues from a diverse interdisciplinary background and both theoretical and applied research. This is an active workshop for members of the International Working Group on Online Consultation and Public Policy Making, some presenting and others discussing the principal papers. Audience members, including students, are welcome to attend, but reservations must be made in advance. Principal presenters include: * Steven J. Balla, Associate Professor of Political Science, Public Policy and Public Administration, Elliott School of International Affairs, George Washington University * Patrizia Bertini, Independent Practitioner and Researcher, European Internet Accessibility Observatory * Andrew Chadwick, Head, Department of Politics and International Relations, and Founding Director, New Political Communication Unit, University of London * Sungsoo Hwang, Ph.D. candidate in Public Affairs, Graduate School of Public and International Affairs, University of Pittsburgh * Laurence Monnoyer-Smith, Associate Professor of Communication Sciences, University of Technology at Compiègne, France * Kerrie Oakes, Ph.D. candidate in Public Administration, Griffi th University, and former Policy Offi cer, Queensland eDemocracy Policy Team in Australia * Oren Perez, Senior Lecturer in the Faculty of Law, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat Gan, Israel * Alicia Schatteman, Ph.D. candidate, School of Public Affairs and Administration, Rutgers University. Best wishes, Tim Erickson E-Democracy.Org
Hi Steven, Is this something i may, can, should or ougt to join here from Norway? Sounds very much like a very local, your own, neighborhood thing. Went to http://e-democracy.org/se - and still - expecting a Swedish site, got no wiser. Pls advice. Thnks.
I wanted to share an update on the launch of the new forum for my neighborhood in Minneapolis. I've added the 125 paper sign-up based members. We are now at 150 members and I'd like get the forum to 200 registered participants before officially opening to post. Steps completed: 1. Bcc: opt-out from paper sign-up - I caught at least 20 e-mail addresses that were mistyped or hard to read before uploading to the server. 2. Upload paper sign-ups. 3. Sent Welcome how to change password post: http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/4NXlQibCkGg0xEg7kN1IWQ 4. Sent "invite your neighbors" post for forwarding: Something amazing is happening. Over 150 neighbors across the Standish and Ericsson neighborhoods are coming together online to build a stronger community in the "real world". Join me on the forum as it opens in the coming days. Once there are 200 of us, we will average one household per block. At 400, we will have 10 percent of the households in regular contact. This online forum encourages e-mail or web-based (your choice) sharing of announcements and discussion of specifically local topics. From schools and parks to crime and local environment, we can now communicate across our neighborhoods in minutes. Unlike most online forms, the host E-Democracy.Org requires civility and the use of real names. Participation is worth your time, on your own time. Because we live near one another, conversations will flow back and forth, offline and back online. Each of us is a connecting point to dozens of people on our block, on a walk, or at the park. Where do I join? Visit: http://e-democracy.org/se Select "register and join" to sign-up. As a default, all members receive individual posts by e-mail and may publish text, photos, etc. by simply posting to "<email obscured>". A daily digest version simply listing topics with links read posts via website is available as well. Two important rules keep message volume reasonable - no one may post more than twice in 24 hours and announcements must be either about events within the geographic boundaries of the neighborhoods or be made by direct participants in area community activities (e.g. an invitation to a Hiawatha Lions pancake breakfast hosted in East Nokomis can only be made by a Lions member who lives or works in Standish or Ericsson for example). The forum has two volunteer co-hosts, Victoria Ford (Standish) and Steven Clift (Ericsson) and they can privately answer any questions you might have - <email obscured> Please spread the word by passing this message on your to neighbors. P.S. Additional background on neighborhood forums across the Twin Cities is available - http://e-democracy.org/nf -. Also, while this forum is not officially sponsored by the Standish Ericsson Neighborhood Association, they are participating in its promotion. E-Democracy.Org, is experienced in supporting volunteers who host similar dynamic forums in over ten communities across three countries. 5. Challenged participants to recruit local "who's who" ... we need to open a forum with those in the halls of power/with access to community resources to ensure that the forum is heard: Subject: Who should we invite to join us? Who can help us solve problems, move resources? Please forward the invitation I just sent to others you know who live or work in the neighborhood. Dig out your neighbors e-mail addresses, perhaps invite them over for coffee as well as to join you on the forum. :-) My goal is to have 200 registered members by the time (voluntary) introductions conclude. More specifically, who do you personally know who should join us on this forum? We want people on the forum who can help us interface with the numerous public institutions that serve us. Not only can they help share announcements, they can also help answer questions. Better yet, if we get this on our loop, they can listen and learn from our discussions be they about development proposals, crime incidents, etc. It is best that someone on the forum with a personal connection volunteer to invite others. Please volunteer to invite a specific person(s) - staneric-fm@e-democracyorg - in this role: 1. City council member(s) and aides 2. Police officers who often serve our neighborhood 3. Community policing, National Night Out contacts 3. Principals and interested teachers at the schools where many of our children attend, school board members 4. Park facility staff and board members in general area 5. County and state legislature elected officials 6. Local librarians 7. Light rail/transit staff knowledgeable about our area 8. Someone from the local fire station 9. Local clergy/places of worship (announcements about special public events such as visiting choirs, etc. are welcome) 10. Local service club representatives (YMCA, Lions, etc.) 11. Locally owned businesses 12. People highly active in our neighborhood association, NRP staff, other city/county staff who serve/live in our neighborhood 13. Who are we missing on our map of "public life" in our neighborhood? Again, please volunteer privately - staneric-fm@e-democracyorg - to take five minutes and invite someone you know filling any of these roles. You can just e-mail them right now and cc: <email obscured> so we know who has been invited. If they say yes, we can just add them manually to make it easy. Assuming they say yes, you can also ask them to forward the public invitation via their own locally relevant e-mail lists to join. Your Neighbor, Steven Clift E-Democracy.Org 6. Next up will be a follow-up note asking people to be sure to help us invite others. 7. Moderated Introductions week ... starting later this week ... I hope to get at least 1/3 of members to say hello as I cruise through sections of the neighborhood (I think) rotating north and south.
Last night was a thrill in Minnesota. It was caucus night as part of the "Super Tuesday" in our presidential selection process. Like many of you, I am about to volunteer to host a local forum - in this case E-Democracy's second neighborhood forum in Minneapolis (in the area where I live - http://e-democracy.org/se ). Walking the talk. While I've recruited a bit online and last weekend the neighborhood association included a plug in their print newsletter sent to the few thousand households in the neighborhood, registrations sat at 25 people. Last night I signed up 116 more members so we can now open to posting. Last year, the Canterbury, New Zealand launch reminded us of the importance of promoting paper sign-ups at the right public events to recruit people. What might you do in your community to bring in new members? Here are updated sign-up forms/templates you can all use in your in-person recruitment efforts: * US PDF: http://e-democracy.org/if/issuesforumsignupform.pdf * US Word: http://e-democracy.org/if/issuesforumsignupform.doc (if you want to change text) * UK/NZ A4 Word: http://e-democracy.org/if/issuesforumsignupformuknz.doc (you can adapt text) More details: http://blog.e-democracy.org/posts/138 The upload process is pretty easy - all you need to do is type up the results in a spreadsheet with columns for "first name," "last name," and "e-mail" and send them to us: <email obscured> I'll report back on how the Standish Ericcson Neighbors Forum opening goes. One caution is that in-person recruitment may be too effective and bring in people who don't want a lot of e-mail or are not quite sure what they signed up to receive. My plan: 1. Type the results into a spreadsheet to prepare for uploading to GroupServer. 2. Send a Bcc: e-mail to everyone confirming that they are about to be added to the online group. Letting them know that they can easily change their settings to digest or unsubscribe and add a few lines to get them excited about what is next. 3. Add the new e-mail addresses while the group is still closed to public posting. 4. Send a "Want only one e-mail a day? Digest option" note. Setting digest is super easy via e-mail. 5. Send a "How to change your password to something you'll remember" post 6. Send a "We about to open, but first let's each invite someone on our block to join" 7. Ask keepers of area e-mail announcement lists (police departments community policing list, neighborhood association, local city council member) to pass on the invite and provide announcements to the forum when appropriate. I think it is easier to get e-officials on a forum before you launch. 8. Send a reminder about digest mode with a sample digest and introduce the web-based no e-mail option as an alternative (I want to keep as many people on digest as possible). By keeping the group on moderation initially you can stop the lemming effect of one person saying (if often not so nice a way) take me off this darn thing leading to a series of me-too replies. It may only be five to ten people, but wayward unsubscribe efforts sent to group by mistake creates a false impression of a negative movement. 9. Keep group on temporary moderation for the "Introductions" phase to manage _voluntary_ introductions over a week or two. I strongly recommend a series of introductions both when opening forums and re-introductions every year or so. This humanizes the forum and builds trust and accountability to real, known people. You'll find roughly twice the number of people are willing to say hello than post their opinions on a regular basis. People who post introductions have now broken the ice and are more likely to post again. The first call will generate 10-15 or so introductions, but don't stop there - thank those how found it easy to say hello and you'll prompt another 10 or more people to say hello. 10. Make the "Introductions" topic "Sticky" via the web so it is listed a top the web view to help new and prospective members get a sense of who's who. 11. Open to the forum to a fully unmoderated mode for general discussion and exchange of announcements. 12. Tune in particularly closely to early rule violations - off topic posts, uncivil behavior, etc. - and act decisively early to put the whole group on notice that the forum charter and rules will be enforced. This will actually improve self-policing and reduce the management required over the long-term. 13. Keep the setting, "moderate new members" in place to avoid fly by night posters, but actively set them to unmoderate with their first legitimate post. 14. Down the road, introduce the opportunity for participants to upload a photo to there member profile page which will stick their picture next to there posts on the web view. Cheers, Steven Clift Chair, E-Democracy.Org
Hello, I am excited to be part of a team here in Mahtomedi, Minnesota, USA that will be working to build a Community Issues Forum. We have named our forum - Wildwood Exchange. Wildwood is a well-recognized name in our area of the Twin Cities Metro Area based on the name of a long-gone amusement park. You can learn more about Mahtomedi at www.ci.mahtomedi.mn.us. Our targeted geographic area is our school district that includes all or parts of seven small communities. As for me, I have my own consulting firm working with communities on economic development and telecommunications/technology. You can learn more about me and my work at www.communitytechnologyadvisors.com. Any advice is appreciated!
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:18:59 +1300 From: Richard Waid <<email obscured>> On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 21:20 -0600, Steven Clift wrote: > As I understand there is a first time e-mail to post delay of 30 > minutes as part of an anti-spam "grey list" feature. > > I am not exactly sure why it is 30 minutes. It may be that with the > recent upgrade the greylisting to "white list" feature was reset. > Once an e-mail address successfully posts, the delay should be > removed. Hi all: It isn't actually 30 minutes -- it's actually more like 5 minutes, *HOWEVER* some email servers may backoff to 30 minutes when they receive the initial refusal. Unfortunately, like many email providers we have to deal with torrents of spam, and grey-listing is the most effective measure that we have. I can try experimenting with the threshold again, but it's a difficult to get right for everyone, while still effectively rejecting spam. Best regards,
As I understand there is a first time e-mail to post delay of 30 minutes as part of an anti-spam "grey list" feature. I am not exactly sure why it is 30 minutes. It may be that with the recent upgrade the greylisting to "white list" feature was reset. Once an e-mail address successfully posts, the delay should be removed. Let us know if your continued e-mail to group posts are delayed in a similar fashion: <email obscured> Cheers, Steven Clift E-Democracy.Org David Braund wrote: > Thanks for this, David, but I've never had a problem e-mailing posts before. Also I notice that the contents of my re-posting are mostly missing where they appear on the website. Maybe liftoff have something to say about that...