Central Ohio Regional Issues Forum Latest Posts 2008-05-17T05:57:14Z E-Democracy.Org Forums http://forums.e-democracy.org http://forums.e-democracy.org/groups/corif/messages/posts.atom GroupServer http://forums.e-democracy.org/favicon.ico Historic Preservation --Is it necessary? http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/240L1JZfnjC6zZA6cRyjhJ Brian Williams /p/brianwilliams 2008-05-17T05:57:14Z
Historic preservation is extremely important to communities and local
economies. It is rightfully boosted, in some cases, by federal tax credits, and
Ohio is planning to expand last year's limited state historic tax credit.
Preserving our heritage beautifies the city, keeps neighborhoods intact and,
while it may often be to the benefit of the well-to-do, the limited tax credits
are available only to people and businesses that already are investing in
places that have been neglected. What's more historic restoration may be
comparable is cost to new construction, but restoration is more
labor-intensive, which means it creates jobs and keeps money in the local
economy. And restoration of a key building in a neighborhood may inspire
further investment in the neighborhood. Preservation is one of the most
cost-effective (from a public-spending standpoint) ways to strengthen
communities.
Broadband in Central Ohio http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/5ILQvkKXD54DLCFVsjDBzV Peter Shane /p/shane29 2008-05-16T15:10:32Z
Another interesting commentary on this topic.

Peter Shane
Columbus


<http://www.muniwireless.com/2008/05/15/northeast-ohio-muni-wireless-brings-together-education-city-officials/>Guest
commentary: Northeast Ohio muni wireless project
brings together education, city officials

Cathy Horton |
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2008 at 1:55 am |
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This week The Chronicle of Higher Education
published a story entitled: “Struggling
Communities Turn to Colleges: Small private
institutions work to help ailing local
economies.” The article discusses the value of
collaboration between higher education and local
government. Author, Karin Fischer, reports that
“civic leaders say they are looking to colleges
not simply to spruce up their city centers but
also to help position them in an economy that
values smarts more than strength.” She goes on to
report: “In old mill towns and declining
manufacturing centers, in the Rust Belt’s former
company towns and in the rural South, small,
private liberal arts institutions like King’s
[College – Wilkes-Barre] are assuming a greater
responsibility for community and economic
development. They and their alumni are raising
money to purchase abandoned buildings. They are
relocating college facilities, like bookstores
and residence halls, to buy up urban cores. They
are working to better connect faculty experts with local entrepreneurs.”

This important trend speaks to what the Beta
Strategy Group understands about Muni Wireless.
In our last
<http://www.muniwireless.com/2008/05/08/economic-value-and-collaboration-in-municipal-wireless/>article,
we suggested that of the broadband deployments we
are engaged in, most involve solving complex
community and economic challenges. Nothing is
more complex than re-inventing the business
communities of our nation through information technology and entrepreneurship.

Right now, we are involved in deploying what will
be the first Muni Wireless Broadband deployment
in Northeast Ohio, a network that will serve the
city and the local college, as well as its
surrounding cities and county offices. Thus,
despite the ongoing dialogue concerning the
validity of broadband deployment, smart cities
and colleges in our path understand that the
objective of drawing students and businesses to
state-of-the-art technology centers will be the
defining component of the future of their Main Street landscape.

For example, in Painesville, Ohio, City Manager
Rita McMahon and local officials at Lake Erie
College are building the exact case study called
for by Ms. Fischer in her timely article.
Painesville’s community has embraced a broadband
strategy to advance not only community safety and
improved city operations, but the network
connects with Lake Erie College. Lake Erie
College, a recipient of the Kaufman
Entrepreneurship Award, intends on building
student businesses and sees the value of keeping
these businesses in the local community.

Painesville and Northeast Ohio have been in the
forefront of broadband deployment and have become
examples of successful technology roadmaps. But
what is not always apparent is that the region
receives the value of collaboration. The success
of Muni Wireless is not just about deploying the
technology or creating a new utility. The true
value and allure rests in the programs that shape
and envision an economic future by leveraging and
raising the intellectual value of the surrounding
community. In other words, the biggest challenge
for Muni Wireless is not technological; it is
about building community economic models that
provide for broad inclusion. This means that city
leaders need to identify “all” of the
stakeholders in a deployment whilst structuring a
business model that accounts for the value of the
participants’ assets, whether they are technological or intellectual.

These are exciting times, and I encourage you to get started.

My colleagues and I welcome your questions and
commentary and we will research and provide you
with the best possible, unbiased input.

Peter M. Shane
Jacob E. Davis and Jacob E. Davis II Chair in Law and
Director, Project on Law and Democratic Development
The Ohio State University
Moritz College of Law
55 West 12th Avenue
Columbus, OH 43210

Executive Director, Knight Commission on the
Information Needs of Communities in a Democracy
www.knightcomm.org

Phone:  614-688-3014
FAX:  614-688-8422
URL:  http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/pshane
E-Mail:  <email obscured> or <email obscured>
Reducing Personal Energy Consumption http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/HL7VTIRXqOCnHGt6PFTVP Jim Coe /p/jimcoe 2008-05-13T19:39:22Z
Thank you, Ashley...and let me add a slight digression, but still in line
with all of our values...

This Saturday there is a big MORPC event in Pickerington to promote saving
time, and our gasoline, and shrinking the carbon footprint...
it's RIDESHARE 43147...a commuter's solution!

Jim Coe, "ProPoint" Marketing (www.propoint.org)
Reducing Personal Energy Consumption http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/22Dv9DeLafxld87nMBBbWR Ashley Lester /p/lesterashley 2008-05-13T19:15:09Z
In response to Joshua's last post I wanted to throw in my two cents.  My name
is Ashley Lester and I work at the Mid-Ohio Regional Planning Commission's
(MORPC) Center for Energy and Environment, and we, at MORPC, completely agree
that people need to feel that they can take action in their own lives to
improve our environment.  As a result, we are raising awareness with "simple
solutions"- Check out our website at these links for tips (we would love your
feedback): http://www.morpc.org/energy/individuals/page_1.asp;
http://www.morpc.org/energy/individuals/page_3.asp;
http://www.morpc.org/energy/individuals/page_2.asp.

As far as changes that can be made as a renter, I definitely struggle with that
as well. I still haven't figured out how to convince the management of my
apartment complex to make changes on their property.  Something you may not
know is that MORPC offers free residential energy conservation assistance to
renters and homeowners that qualify based on income. This link
http://www.morpc.org/energy/center/page_4.asp has more information.

Additionally, the Center for Energy and Environment works with communities that
have signed onto the Central Ohio Green Pact on implementing the ten goals of
the pact, which in-turn will directly affect the quality of life within each
community and the region as a whole.  We host bi-monthly Education Forums that
foster a valuable discussion among participants, providing first-hand examples
of best sustainable practices--from reducing waste to purchasing green
products.  Mark your calendars for the next forum, which will be held on July
11 at 10 a.m.

Other great events are coming your way, including Riverfest on May 31--visit
www.riverfestcolumbus.org  (volunteers needed) for more information--and the
Summit on Sustainability and the Environment September 11-13.  Visit
www.greenregion.org  (scholarships available) for more information.

Thanks for your time,
Ashley Lester
Columbus
Reducing Personal Energy Consumption http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/7mSkI1is6u9S2qcX4fOYQ Joshua Wiener /p/joshuawiener 2008-05-13T07:19:53Z
In general, most of the discussion about global warming seems to focus on
policy initiatives and other actions occurring at the governmental level.
While these discussions are critically important, I?m often left wondering
what steps I can take in my personal life to reduce energy consumption and
limit my carbon footprint.  I?ve switched to compact fluorescent light bulbs
and try to walk places as much as possible, but I know that there are probably
many other things I can do to reduce my impact on climate change.

Undoubtedly this is a question that is relevant to us all, and I am hoping that
the rest of you may have some good ideas about steps that Central Ohio
residents such as myself can take to conserve energy and combat global warming
on a personal level.

What do you do to reduce your personal energy consumption?  Also, as someone
who resides in an apartment building I recognize that there are differences in
people's ability to alter their living environment.  Does anyone have ideas
about steps renters can take since we generally are not able to make physical
changes to the property on which we live?  Conversely, what additional options
are available to homeowners?

Thanks for your help.
Sustainable Pickerington First meeting planned 5-19-08 http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/2WJBPZSbmnMLLZbbvIfpaL iraweiss Weiss /p/iweiss 2008-05-11T20:57:07Z
SUSTAINABLE PICKERINGTON - First Official Meeting





SUSTAINABLE PICKERINGTON, a newly formed group interested in developing and
influencing sustainable living practices in the Pickerington/Violet Township
area, invites you to attend their first official meeting on Monday, May 19,
2008 from 7-8 PM at the O'Brien Shelter House, Victory Park, Pickerington.



Current interests include:  promoting a walkable and bikeable community,
promoting year-round access to locally grown food, reducing and recycling
solid waste, and educating those wanting to lead a more sustainable
lifestyle.



Community input and a sharing of ideas will make the vision of a SUSTAINABLE
PICKERINGTON a reality.  All interested parties are welcome!



Questions can be directed to Kely Mertz at <email obscured>.
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Face-to-face communication and interaction compliment the discussions taking
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Along with the Introductions thread, this topic will always remain at the top
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Streetcar Meeting? http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/5unbwgdwWAVFASYqbLQBhq Ann Whelan /p/annwhelan 2008-05-08T14:02:51Z
What is so remarkable to be about this bus rapid transit system in Columbia
is that it is such a creative solution that works so well for commuting to
work. It solved the parking problem by having the bike racks and free
shuttles. And it solved the access problem by operating like a subway with
stations. And probably solved some health problems because folks get the
work out their bodies need and they don't even have to pay for a gym
membership. I think we could come up with a creative workable green and
healthy solution here too, and so I am encouraged. On second thought, I
think we have to (its not optional) if we want our grandchildren to have a
future.  Its a way of thinking and a having a long term big picture
vision.We can learn a lot from others successes and mistakes too.This is a
success story! Not that our solution in Columbus will be the same as theirs
in Columbia. The future is way more important than than just bringing in
business, economic development etc. because that won't matter much if we
destroy our planet. .
Historic Preservation --Is it necessary? http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/1mag0z6q5gNDFOg8sQHcFG Andrew Miller /p/andrewmiller 2008-05-08T14:01:11Z
Actually, funny that you ask - I was at Upper Arlington's Historic Preservation
Task Force meeting until 10pm last night. As a member of the HPTF we've been
working to come to a consensus on implementing some HP legislation in UA. Even
with the strong history in UA with many of the major developers of post 1900
Central Ohio having lived in our community we have never had HP legislation.
Losing homes like the Spanish House, the Rhodes House, etc has made UA look bad
from an HP standpoint and has (from the standpoint of a preservationist like
myself) been very bad for our community on a whole. UA and Whitehall are the
only two inner-ring suburbs with no HP legislation to date. Most of the suburbs
adjoining Columbus just outside of 270 also have HP legislation.

The biggest issue we've faced in UA is the property rights extremists who say
"this is my house and I can do what I want with it" which is just a ridiculous
notion when you live in a highly populated area. Social norms are necessary to
keep the peace. Suggesting that your right to destroy your property supercedes
your neighbors or your communities desire to maintain a stated standard is
devisive at best. However it is important to both recognize that people do and
should have a certain level of permission to do what is right for them with
their property otherwise there is no sense in owning property.

Our group has come to a concensus of supporting a non restrictive policy
towards demolition which requires a waiting period during which education must
take place in an attempt to change the property owners mind. This is far from
where I would like the legislation to be but it is a step in the right
direction and I think that is important enough to get me to support it.

HP legislation is shown time and again (do a google search and you'll see what
I mean) to be beneficial to communities when well written. Poorly written HP
legislation will actually cause more demolition because that is the easier
route to take. Communities which have done a good job of preservation generally
have a higher property value, higher community involvement and an overall
improved quality of life rating.

When you look at the benefits of HP you start to see that it is as much about
accepting a societal shift as anything else though. Property Rights activists
are essentially saying "I'm looking out for me, not you, and I am an island to
myself." This attitude fly's in the face of community building. By accepting HP
you start to realize that the community at a whole is as important (if not more
important) than me as an individual.

It is that mental shift that leads people to concern for the less fortunate or
capable of their own communities as well. At that point we all start to see a
better world.

Andrew
http://elephantsonbicycles.com
Historic Preservation --Is it necessary? http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/7CBS3cRG7bMC1mZ0qvMxah Elizabeth Ike /p/elizabethike 2008-05-08T13:39:01Z
It always amazes me to see how these issues are so deeply intertwined!

It makes me think; as a Columbus native, I have a modest grasp of the
historic preservation issue within the city, but I am not familiar with how
this issue might impact some of the outlying communities (like older suburbs
and small towns in the region with a historic 'main street').  Certainly the
land value gradient in these communities must be less drastic than the one
in Columbus or other bigger cities, but relative to the size of these
potentially smaller municipal budgets, it seems like these governments would
still have a difficult time funding preservation programs.  But then the
need for social programs may be greater within central cities, so that
practical budget needs might outweigh aesthetics and history.

Does any one have any direct experience or insight about how smaller
communities differ from cities on this issue?
Does your town or suburb have a preserved 'main street' and if so, why
and/or how does it work?
Is it more challenging to preserve historic structures and character in the
central cities?  If so, why?
Historic Preservation --Is it necessary? http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/6ZQMzsIioqu2WyLEbjlbEY Andrew Miller /p/andrewmiller 2008-05-08T12:47:37Z
I don't think it is useful to get into an argument of This as opposed to That.

Historic Preservation benefits the community at large by retaining historically
significant structures and in some cases maintaining the stylistic elements of
that period within a neighborhood or community. The effect is that residents
and visitors have something beautiful to admire, feel a sense of pride and
learn from. Overtly this benefits the people who can afford to own property as
it raises the value of their property. The other side of that is that these
same people are the ones who have to pay for maintence, etc. which can be a
substantial cost on a historic home. Slate roofs which are common on historic
properties in Central Ohio cost upwards of 8 times the price of an asphalt
shingle roof.

Most historic preservation doesn't require tax right offs by the city. Columbus
has some very comprehensive HP legislation based on neighborhoods (German
Village being the most stringent) and none of it is based on tax breaks.
Unfortunately there are structures  (such as the Firestone House) that fall
outside of the current legeslation due to their location, etc. I think it is
valid to fight for these structures wherever they may be but also believe that
HP should come from a desire of the community to preserve important structures
and not through tax breaks.

As for the needy in our community I agree we shouldn't give an across the board
tax break for anything that would affect our ability to pay for their services
either. I would say that however poor I've been (which has been substantial at
times in my life) I never wanted to live in an city that didn't appreciate
beauty.

Andrew
http://elephantsonbicycles.com
Historic Preservation --Is it necessary? http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/4Od8kdwjnj9kXq2NkQ5Dxu Nick Bates /p/nickbates 2008-05-08T12:18:36Z
I am all in preserving historical sites around town.  History is part of our
culture, however, before investing hundreds of thousands if not millions
into preserving historic buildings I need to know.
1. what will the building be used for?
2. Is the plan a revitalization plan for a neighborhood for residential to
prevent new suburbs from being built?

My only concern as we look at preservation is that people are suffering
right now in Columbus from evictions, foreclosure, homelessness, inadequate
and unsafe housing etc.  Investing through tax breaks or repair programs
through the city and county make me feel as if we are providing welfare
services to benefit the rich.  Why invest in updating the electricity in one
building on E. Broad street when for the same cost we could update the
electricity in homes a few blocks away that have citizens living in.

I do not know the history of the building and exactly what it will be used
for,(my comments are not directed at the specific address mentioned but
larger philosophical questions) but I have seen in Cleveland a lot of
historical renovations that have taken old run down buildings and turned
into wealthy housing and also into office space that primarily benefits the
upper socio-economic levels when for the same cost, we could have helped a
lot of low-income and moderate income persons improve their housing.



> Hi all, This is my first time posting on the group. I wanted to make everyone
> aware of the imminent demolition scheduled for 1266 E. Broad Street,
otherwise
> known as the Firestone Mansion. This building, is listed as a contributing
> element to the architectural integrity of the E. Broad Street National
> Register Historic District and is one of only two Second Renaissance Revival
> buildings left in the City. Several entities collaborated and tried to work
> with the owner of the property to develop strategies to save the building.
> I've attached a Press Release from the Columbus Landmarks Foundation if
anyone
> wants to read more about it. This leads me to the following question and
topic
> for discussion: Is there more that can be done here in Columbus to help
> instill a feeling of history and hence an obligation to save unique historic
> properties or historic neighborhoods from demise? Do you feel this an
integral
> part of creating an identity for Columbus? Do you feel this is a necessar
>  y step when seeking to create more sustainable neighborhoods? When living in
> New Orleans, my friends bought a house needingrenovation and theyreceived a
> tax break from the City when they updated things like the electrical.Is it
> feasible/possible tooffer incentives like this in Columbus? Though the State,
> MPO, or City level? Canwe engage large corporations/philanthropers to
> understand the benefits of preserving historic properties?Different
viewpoints
Historic Preservation --Is it necessary? http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/1Ggtaugkojm00qkloTq608 Heather Bowden /p/heatherbowden 2008-05-08T04:09:21Z
Hi all, This is my first time posting on the group. I wanted to make everyone
aware of the imminent demolition scheduled for 1266 E. Broad Street, otherwise
known as the Firestone Mansion. This building, is listed as a contributing
element to the architectural integrity of the E. Broad Street National Register
Historic District and is one of only two Second Renaissance Revival buildings
left in the City. Several entities collaborated and tried to work with the
owner of the property to develop strategies to save the building. I've attached
a Press Release from the Columbus Landmarks Foundation if anyone wants to read
more about it. This leads me to the following question and topic for
discussion: Is there more that can be done here in Columbus to help instill a
feeling of history and hence an obligation to save unique historic properties
or historic neighborhoods from demise? Do you feel this an integral part of
creating an identity for Columbus? Do you feel this is a necessary step when
seeking to create more sustainable neighborhoods? When living in New Orleans,
my friends bought a house needingrenovation and theyreceived a tax break from
the City when they updated things like the electrical.Is it feasible/possible
tooffer incentives like this in Columbus? Though the State, MPO, or City level?
Canwe engage large corporations/philanthropers to understand the benefits of
preserving historic properties?Different viewpoints on thistopic would be
greatly appreciated. Thanks, Heather Bowden
Introductions http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/1ltnuDORIwfhnEWkfhx8oj Josh Vittie /p/joshvittie 2008-05-06T04:44:15Z
Hello all.

I am Josh Vittie, a 28 year old, 5 (or so) year resident of Columbus, Ohio,
originally from the Greater Niagara Frontier of Western New York (Niagara Falls
- 15 miles N of Buffalo).  I am finishing my B.A. this Summer at The Ohio State
University graduating with Distinction in Psychology, with a Major in
Psychology and a double minor in Criminology and Forensic Sciences.  I will be
starting in Autumn at The John Glenn School of Public Affairs at The Ohio State
University to pursue a Master of Public Administration; the same program as Mr.
J. Wiener above.

I decided to join this group because in March I attended a workshop at the
Moritz College of Law pertaining to the rise of E-government, and met Mr. P.
Shane (also introduced above) who told me this group would be starting soon,
this seems to be an interesting forum where I may be able to get some questions
answered, voice my opinions, and read about issues that will have an effect on
the region (and the opinions of those who are either stakeholders in those
issues or are fairly well informed on said issues.

My background is fairly diverse - I have done everything from assembly work,
shipping/receiving, warehousing, to OTR truck driver, Paramedic in a paid
service back home, volunteer firefighter, and a bunch of other stuff that
wasn't all that interesting...

I look forward to reading many of your opinions, educating myself on issues in
the region, and seeing your comments to my opinions.

With warm regards,
Josh Vittie
Streetcar Meeting? http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/2hqTHdf2BzlYkMWF9fWXlX Josh Vittie /p/joshvittie 2008-05-06T04:41:16Z
I have to express my agreement with Mr. C. Moore on a number of issues he
brings up.  As a student at The Ohio State University who currently lives in
Columbus (north of 270) I have a great number of issues with the street car
proposal in general.

1.  Mr. Moore's point of keeping already established bus transportation where
it exists (High St. in particular) seems especially valid to me.  He also
brings up an interesting point that it would be inefficient to tear up parts of
High street for this project.  Furthermore, High St. is a 5 lane road (2 NB
lanes, 2 SB and a central turn lane) that's not really a good example of a 5
lane road...  In parts of the Short North it is legal to park on High in the
right most lane - limiting traffic to 1 travel lane in that direction.  South
of Nationwide, during peak hours, the rightmost lane is only open to COTA and
Taxi traffic - limiting High St. to one travel lane in each direction.  Where
is the street car lane going to be?  Are they going to ride in the rightmost
lane with COTA and Taxis causing the buses and cabs to weave in and out of car
traffic to pass street cars as necessary or will buses and taxis be banned from
running in lanes with street cars?  Are we going to widen High Street and take
away what precious little sidewalk space we have?

2. As a student at OSU, my tuition statement includes a line for $9/quarter
that we are charged for "COTA Fee" - will this fee increase as a result of the
University contributing funds to this project?  Will student's be able to ride
the Street Cars for free (As we can with COTA buses now) if this fee increases?

3. Considering that all parking fees - meters, garages, surface lots - will
increase to raise revenue to pay for this project it will make parking downtown
a less attractive option.  (Which if I understand correctly is the point... we
raise prices so people won't want to park downtown and should encourage them to
use the streetcar.)  If the streetcar is only going from the University to
German Village - where are people from the suburbs supposed to park?  There's
already a shortage of parking near campus, and you have to have a permit to
park on campus.  My point here is - there's no efficient means of brining
people from the suburbs to downtown to utilize the streetcars, further, if they
already have to ride into downtown to catch a streetcar, why not drive the
extra couple of miles to the Arena, especially since there's no where to park
(at least at the Northern Terminus of the streetcar)?

4. Back to a point by Mr. Moore - you're connecting two middle-class
neighborhoods where most own cars; he also suggests Broad Street as an
alternative for the pilot project.  This sounds like a great idea - why not
connect the Hilltop and the East side, where there is a far greater number of
low SES individuals without effective transportation options and bring them
downtown where there are more options for them to make their purchases (even
more options if City Center can be re-developed and more businesses can be
brought back to downtown)?

5. I've seen a cost of $103M to build the 2.8 mile route (cited at
http://www.nbc4i.com/midwest/cmh/news.apx.-content-articles-CMH-2008-04-29-0019.html
)- from what I know from a position driving bus, a transit bus can cost
$200,000 to $250,000, if COTA could negotiate a price of $200,000 per bus -
that money could bring 500 new buses to the area.  That could replace many of
the older buses and be used to establish new routes to connect the outlying
suburbs to downtown.

6. Mr. J. Coe - addresses the point I was going to make now pretty well.

7.  Funding for projects for transportation is already scarce - MORPC reported
on page 5 of the summary of the State of the Region report that "future
transportation needs identified by MORPC total $31B, where as funding is
estimated to be $15B".  While people argue that this 2.8 mile section is just
the beginning of a far larger project - where is the money for the rest of the
project going to come from?  According to the above quote - our region is
already needing to plan for a $16B deficit IN TRANSPORTATION ALONE!  Are we
going to raise prices to park everywhere the route goes and continue to add a
surcharge on events at venues near the route?

I have a number of other questions - but this is already pretty long winded...

I just want to add a disclaimer - I'm not against streetcars in general, I just
think they need to have a certain type of community to support them.  The
European models of streetcars relies on a very high population density
surrounding the routes with that population either not owning personal vehicles
or feeling that using their vehicle for daily transportation is too costly
compared to the alternative - I just don't see those conditions as existing in
Columbus, Ohio...

Regards,
Josh Vittie, MPA '10
Streetcar Meeting? http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/1F0wGwfwaKVn7kzsoa71XT Andrew Miller /p/andrewmiller 2008-05-05T20:58:13Z
This system is very interesting, I've read several publications about it over
the past handful of years. They are currently seeing issues with it but in
general has been a successful system. I really like this idea and have no
reservations about bus riding but with the current cultural stigma our city
(and country) puts on bus systems I think it would be easier to put light rail
in place than to implement what is ultimately a better use of money in a bus
system such as this IMO.

Andrew
http://elephantsonbicycles.com
Broadband in Central Ohio http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/1UKyGO4pLLvLBfWpjHcFs2 Andrew Miller /p/andrewmiller 2008-05-05T19:40:45Z
I'm not sure if there are any groups doing this in Central Ohio. Broadband Ohio
is a state initiative (an expansion/pass thru of Taft's OH1 rebranded for
Strickland) which aims at providing last mile broadband connectivity to all
Ohioans (particularly those in Appalachia) but this is not the same as free
community broadband. This contract would be available to local governments and
it's agents to make this happen but there would still be a cost at some level.
Many communities have backed away from providing WiFi on the basis that it is
technologically difficult to support (WiFi hasn't matured enough for reliable
broadband use throughout municipalites without significant cost) and secondly
that the municipalities get a hard fought battle from the Telco/Cable providers
in the area who say that the free broadband is harming their ability to do
business. Depending on what is at risk (jobs, etc.) by pissing off those
companies some cities pull back and some
 go forward.

Even in affluent communities (I live in UA and eccentially have one option
[Time Warner] for hardwired broadband) selection and availability are sometimes
hard to come by. As cell based broadband gets better and less expensive I see
fewer and fewer public entities willing to provide this service so it is
imperative that, at least for the sake of lower income populations, nonprofits
consider working this angle to help bridge the digital divide.

Thanks for pointing out this organization, it is really inspiring.

Andrew
http://elephantsonbicycles.com
Streetcar Meeting? http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/1C1ThlyCFY6XEKo3vISVIZ Andrew Miller /p/andrewmiller 2008-05-05T19:28:53Z
Actually, I keep seeing things about how Portland's tracks eat bike wheels too
so I'm really curious what types of tracks won't and if those are indeed the
type of tracks that columbus will install.

Andrew
http://elephantsonbicycles.com
Streetcar Meeting? http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/4VoqAOc0oeiZ7kYSE6KJlh Elizabeth Ike /p/elizabethike 2008-05-05T19:25:19Z
This response is not directly streetcar-related, but certainly related to
our region's vision for regional mass transit.  I was forwarded this link
this morning and was very impressed by the concept of the bus rapid transit
system as applied in Bogota, Colombia (a city of more than 7million).

http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/28/streetfilm-brt-in-bogota/

Check it out.  I would love to hear your opinions on this.

Liz Ike
Broadband in Central Ohio http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/post/24t3O8OKdIXygjUI0oklI9 Peter Shane /p/shane29 2008-05-05T16:58:21Z
I recently came across the following story about an award to Scot
Rourke, CEO of the OneCommunity project (www.onecommunity.org) in
Northeast
Ohio.
http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS155456+25-Mar-2008+PRN20080325
The story reads:

"As OneCommunity's CEO, Rourke led the successful effort to develop
an ultra-broadband community network serving first the city of
Cleveland and then the entire Northeast Ohio region. The effort began
in 2002 when Cleveland's Case Western Reserve University named Lev
Gonick as its new CIO. Believing that the region's nonprofits should
play a more active role in its recovery from industrial decline,
Gonick assembled a group of community leaders that founded
OneCleveland, OneCommunity's predecessor. Rourke joined the effort,
turning this vision into reality. Under Rourke's leadership,
OneCommunity forged partnerships with the region's telephone and
cable carriers. The OneCommunity network has expanded and will soon
connect 1,500 schools, libraries, governments, hospitals and
universities, cost-effectively delivering ultra broadband that
enables applications such as distance learning and telemedicine."

I am wondering how our region compares.  Are there central Ohio
efforts comparable to this?  I think there's a municipal wi-fi
project going on in Dublin.  Any others?  Who is leading the effort
to give our region the broadband capacity (and relevant public
policies) that we will need for the future?

Peter Shane
Columbus