FW: Windmill Hill
From:
Ben barker
Date:
May 24 13:37 UTC
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Hi,
Of course, the 'Windmill Hill Question' ought not to be one to be resolved
just at local level. If there were better partnership working Bristolwide,
many of the anomalies would not arise.
For example, I understand that the police are organized into 17
neighbourhood policing areas across the city. Neighbourhood Partnerships
are 14 in number. Both the Parks department and the Extended Schools
Partnerhips (including Youth Service) are broken into 10 units. But not,
of course, the same 10 neighbourhood clusters!! Planning has just
published a map showing their 6 local units. All of this increased
emphasis on 'neighbourhood working' springs from good intentions around the
twin goals of Better Coordination of Service Delivery Locally and Greater
Opportunities for Local People to Influence Service Delivery. Nobody is
likely to come out against Motherhood and Apple Pie, but will it really
happen?
There's no magic number of units into which the city could be divided,
except that the larger the number the more local the service. But,
ANYTHING between 10 and 20 is likely to work. The problem is that we are
well on our way to EVERYTHING between 10 and 20. This is because people at
the top of organisations seem reluctant to agree on how to group
neighbourhoods. They prefer to structure their neighbourhood working
around their own administrative needs, thus helping to sabotage Better
Co-ordination and, by making the system complex and confusing, decreasing
opportunities for Public Involvement. Thus the inadequacies of the past
are projected into the future. The so-called new, bottom-up system, is
largely the old, top-down system in disguise.
Of course, if service leaders are not prepared to talk to each other and
come up with coherant proposals, how much less are they inclined to heed the
views of people living in neighbourhoods. The message is clear, 'pay your
taxes and shut up: business as usual'.
Cheers, Grumpy of Bedminster.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nixie James-Scott" <<email obscured>>
To: <<email obscured>>
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 8:54 PM
Subject: [GB-Forum] FW: Windmill Hill
>I thought you may be interested and want to comment on the reply I had from
> Mark Bailey about the Windmill Hill issue after my post on this site which
> I
> cc'd to Mark Bailey and Alf Havvock (councillors)
>
>
> Nixie James-Scott
> Therapist, Teacher & Reiki Master
> 0117 985 8036 / 07974 119428
>
> Dear Nixie,
>
> Thank you for the email. I have copied below my reply to Nancy Carlton on
> this subject that sets out the circumstances which lead to Windmill Ward
> being linked to Filwood and Knowle Wards. You will see from my reply that
> I
> acknowledge that residents living in Windmill Hill would naturally assume
> that we should be linked to the Bedminster and Southville partnership.
> However, it needs to be remembered that these partnerships are based on
> ward
> boundaries and not on individual areas within the ward. I therefore feel
> that irrespective of which Partnership we are linked with some people,
> depending on where they live in the ward, will not be convinced by the
> argument or the logic behind the decision.
>
> Having said all of the above Alf and I are intending to meet with the lead
> council officer for Neighbourhood Partnerships as we are not convinced
> that
> the present arrangements are working as well as they could.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark
>
> Nancy,
>
> Windmill Hill, Knowle and Filwood wards were clustered together under the
> Neighbourhood Management trial, a Government initiative back in 2005,
> which
> was the forerunner of the Neighbourhood Partnerships. We were not given a
> choice by the Government in 2005 so it did seem logical, because of the
> links that were already established, that this arrangement should continue
> under the Partnerships arrangements. If I was given the choice, and
> leaving
> aside the operational difficulties, the best solution would probably be to
> put half the ward in the Bedminster Partnership and the other half in with
> Knowle and Filwood.
>
> I can quite understand why some residents living in Cotswold Road and
> surrounding area, given the close proximity to Southville, would wish to
> be
> grouped with the Bedminster Partnership. However, I feel that there are
> Windmill Hill residents living in Totterdown and half way up the Wells
> Road
> that would probably give them an argument about this. Families from this
> ward who send their children to Hillcrest School for example, which sits
> on
> the boundary with Knowle ward, may not be convinced by your argument.
> People
> living around Perrett's Park, which also forms the boundary with Knowle,
> again would also not necessarily agree that Windmill ward has more in
> common
> with Bedminster than Knowle.
>
> I suppose what I am saying is that the judgement on what is the best fit
> is
> coloured by where you live in the ward, where you shop, what schools your
> children attend, where you go to work etc. Whichever partnership we chose
> to
> join I think it is inevitable that some residents within the ward would
> question the logic of the choice.
>
> However, this does not change the fact that large parts of this ward are
> affected by what happens across the boundary in Filwood. For example the
> most deprived areas of this ward around Marksbury Road and Lynton Road are
> already tied to Filwood because they are included in the Community in
> Partnership boundaries, which is a Filwood based organisation. Youth work
> in
> this ward is controlled through Youth Moves which again works out of
> Filwood. It also needs to be taken into consideration that the biggest
> development to take place in this ward over the next couple of years will
> be
> the re-development of the City of Bristol college and the Torpoint and
> Kingswear sites. Both these sites are on the boundary with Filwood and
> will
> be managed by the Knowle West Project Board which includes the councillors
> from Knowle, Filwood and Windmill Hill.
>
> Your remarks about being marginalized because we are grouped with Filwood
> are valid. The groups in Filwood tend to be very well organised and fight
> their corner and can be on occasions difficult to deal with. However, my
> job
> as a local councillor is to make sure that problems in Windmill Hill are
> not
> marginalized irrespective of which group I am dealing with; be it council
> tenants from Knowle West or articulate middle class people from
> Southville.
>
> Concerns about policing in this ward linked to what partnership we fall
> into
> are I believe unfounded. Alf and I usually speak or meet with our
> Neighbourhood Police Team several times a week. We have an excellent
> working
> relationship with them and I cannot remember one single incident when
> their
> ability to tackle problems in the ward was compromised because of the
> Partnership arrangements. Our PACT meetings for example are not affected
> by
> the partnership agreement and I know for a fact that our team work in
> conjunction with the police teams from all the surrounding wards,
> depending
> on what issues they are tackling.
>
> Your concerns over the lack of investment in our parks because of the
> partnership arrangements are again in my opinion overstated. We have just
> signed off the Improvement Plan for Victoria Park with Peter Wilkinson,
> Head
> of Parks. During this 12 month process it was never discussed or intimated
> that any funding for this work would be conditional on what partnership we
> were attached to. Over the last 5 years working with park groups like VPAG
> we have been very successful in bringing more investment into our parks
> and
> green spaces in this ward. With continued support from community groups
> throughout the ward I am confident that this investment will continue.
>
> While personally I have no strong opinion concerning what partnership we
> should belong to I do feel on balance that, because of the existing ties
> and
> the working relationships established over the last three years, we should
> remain where we are. I must though make it clear that after three years of
> going to meetings I am still to be convinced of the value of Neighbourhood
> Partnership in general. In my opinion until a substantial budget is
> attached
> to each ward through these partnerships, that can be allocated and spent
> by
> residents, they remain nothing much more than talking shops. Also bearing
> in
> mind the extremely low turnout at previous Partnership meetings and the
> fact
> that not one resident from this ward attended the last partnership event I
> am still not persuaded that this is a burning issue with the majority of
> residents. I feel it is also fair to point out that at the time of writing
> this email this is the only correspondence that I have ever received on
> this
> issue, from someone who actually lives in the ward.
>
> As you are already aware I am always willing to meet with resident groups
> or
> individuals to talk through these kind of issues. If you would like to
> arrange a meeting with one of your groups I will only be too happy to
> attend.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Nixie James-Scott
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